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1. Eugen 🎄 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 12:32:07 UTC Eugen 🎄

   Which language does zh-CN stand for? Cantonese?

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   • Tobias (tobias@social.diekershoff.de)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 13:00:05 UTC Tobias

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     @gargron AFAIK simplified Chinese
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 16:06:36 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @gargron "zh": Chinese, "CN": as spoken/written in China. It refers to Standard Chinese: Beijing Mandarin written with simplified Chinese characters.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 16:15:06 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @tobias @question @lnxw48a1 @envgen @gargron @tobias Not just the character set, but also the dialect (in the linguistic sense, not in the Chinese government where any "speech" (language) is a "dialect"). zh-SG is Chinese as used in Singapore, and it also uses simplified characters. zh-TW/HK/MO all use traditional characters. They're all Mandarin. Cantonese has no two-letter code, it's yue or zh-yue.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 16:21:24 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     The character set aside, zh-TW and zh-CN are probably more alike than either of them is to zh-HK.
   • Pietro Gagliardi (andlabs@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 16:23:14 UTC Pietro Gagliardi

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     @clacke @Gargron wouldn't a BCP 47 code specify the spoken language after the standard code?

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 18:51:15 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @andlabs I don't see anything in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5646 or https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp47 about there being a distinction between written and spoken languages. But I'm no localization expert, so I don't know the practices in use out there.
     
     From what I understand, zh-HK is Chinese (Mandarin) as used in Hong Kong, and that's what HK people commonly use for writing in a formal context. (zh-)yue-HK is Cantonese as used in Hong Kong, and that's what people speak and sometimes write, in court transcripts, opera manuscripts, chats, SMS, lunch menus and slogans and other informal commercial text, and (or so I've heard) some magazines.