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1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 17:38:01 UTC Bob Mottram

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   @xj9 @hobbsc I expect that anyone making decisions about web standards is heavily lobbied to do this kind of stuff. If everyone around you is saying that DRM is ok, that is "protects content creators" or whatever then it would be easy to go along with that.
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   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 17:40:14 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @hobbsc @xj9 as I said in a job interview earlier in the year at which DRM came up.
     
     

     "You've talked a lot about defending the rights of creators, but what about defending the rights of users?"
     
     

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   • Goddess of Desire (dtluna@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 17:42:57 UTC Goddess of Desire

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     @bob @hobbsc @xj9 DRM is not an issue of rights. It's a technical measure.
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   • Christopher M. Hobbs (hobbsc@gs.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 17:59:11 UTC Christopher M. Hobbs

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     @dtluna sure. We'll find a way to circumvent it. In the end, DRM may be a technical measure but it is a measure of control. Therefore it is also an issue of freedom.
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   • Christopher M. Hobbs (hobbsc@gs.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 18:59:21 UTC Christopher M. Hobbs

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     @dtluna also, i wanted to say that i rarely agree with you but i appreciate your opinions and your interjections.  sometimes the fediverse gets the echo chamber vibe and it's nice to see counter points.
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   • Goddess of Desire (dtluna@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2017 03:25:01 UTC Goddess of Desire

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     DRM doesn't control you. Don't want to play DRM content - don't play it.
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   • Christopher M. Hobbs (hobbsc@gs.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2017 15:20:29 UTC Christopher M. Hobbs

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     @dtluna it controls me if the content i want to play is only available under drm
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   • Goddess of Desire (dtluna@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2017 17:46:08 UTC Goddess of Desire

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     @hobbsc does me not giving you access to some text I write without your consent to do something I want you to violate your rights or freedoms?
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   • Christopher M. Hobbs (hobbsc@gs.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 02:44:22 UTC Christopher M. Hobbs

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     @dtluna no, not expressly. It also depends on if that were text that you had intended for others to consume and what your standpoint on copyright is.
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   • Goddess of Desire (dtluna@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 03:43:02 UTC Goddess of Desire

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     @hobbsc Copyright should be completely abolished.
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   • Christopher M. Hobbs (hobbsc@gs.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 05:16:31 UTC Christopher M. Hobbs

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     @dtluna we finally agree on something!
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   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 09:05:38 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @dtluna @hobbsc what about patents?
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   • Goddess of Desire (dtluna@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 09:11:54 UTC Goddess of Desire

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     @bob @hobbsc Intellectual property is ridiculous and harmful in any form or shape.
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 10:14:01 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @dtluna @bob @hobbsc @xj9 A technical measure providing a barrier to the practical excercise of rights. It should not be illegal, but we shouldn't support it as part of a standard.