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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Mar-2017 19:05:48 UTC Hallå Kitteh
   #gitter joins #gitlab, becomes free software! Next step: Who will add it to some federation?
   • Canain (cainan@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Mar-2017 19:10:57 UTC Canain

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     @clacke like gitman?

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   • Ross Schulman (ross@social.rbs.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Mar-2017 19:14:42 UTC Ross Schulman

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     @clacke I think its already bridged into Matrix.

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:11:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     There was supposed to be a https://about.gitlab.com/2017/03/15/gitter-acquisition/ in there. #gitter #gitlab
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:23:42 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Ross Schulman
     @ross Cool. Looked over the #matrix blog and it looked like it's not a fully-automatic bridge for arbitrary gitter rooms yet, each gitter room owner will have to run a hard-coded bridge.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:25:50 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Canain
     @cainan Found two independent "gitman" written in node and python, which are about dependency resolution and nothing about chats. Do you have a link?
   • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟ (xj9@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:27:45 UTC 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟

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     @clacke really? I haven't had problems joining any gitter rooms from #matrix
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   • Mitchell (stitchxd@gnusocial.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:31:09 UTC Mitchell

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     • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟
     @xj9 @clacke Wait is matrix just a more fancy OStatus...?
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   • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟ (xj9@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 12:45:51 UTC 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟

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     @stitchxd @clacke you could say that. I've been kicking around the idea of building an ostatus-matrix bridge for a while. probably letting my perfectionist tendencies get the better of me, tbh.
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   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 13:03:41 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     No. #matrix is more like #IRC with a pretty face and some additions cloned from #SIP and #XMPP.
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   • Mitchell (stitchxd@gnusocial.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 14:54:58 UTC Mitchell

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     @lnxw48a1 But Isn't matrix backend just using HTTP + SSL + JSON? IRC uses those same protocols for its backend..?
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 20:37:17 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟
     @xj9 Ok! Where did you find the documentation on where to find #gitter rooms on #matrix? I looked around, but only saw the software mentioned, not any running service.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 20:42:30 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Mitchell
     @lnxw48a1 @stitchxd Yeah, #matrix and #ostatus don't really have the same use cases, but as @xj9 says: They could be bridged.
     
     OStatus is built around the idea of publishing public streams of posts from users, and other users following those streams.
     
     #XMPP is build around the idea of sending private messages between users or within groups of users, but also has public rooms.
     
     #Matrix is built around the idea of synchronizing rooms of messages (public or private) between servers, but also has direct messaging emulated by one-on-one rooms.
   • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟ (xj9@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 20:42:40 UTC 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟

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     @clacke no docs, just playing with ids
     
     #gitter_go-gitea=2Fgitea:matrix.org
     #gitter_amark=2Fgun:matrix.org
     #gitter_twbs=2Fbootstrap:matrix.org
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 20:45:59 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @stitchxd @lnxw48a1 HTTP, TLS and JSON are all newer inventions than the IRC protocol, but you can of course run IRC over TLS.
     
     There is an IRC front-end for Matrix, so that you can connect to a Matrix room with an IRC client, and there is an IRC client back-end for Matrix, so that you can connect to an IRC room with a Matrix client. But it's not because the protocols are particularly similar, it's just because Matrix people are really focused on bridging with everything, and because they have similar concepts of rooms, users and messages.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 20:47:13 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟
     @xj9 But somewhere you learned that you could prepend #gitter_ to a repository name. Or you just had an impulse and tried it?
   • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟ (xj9@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 21:04:21 UTC 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟

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     @clacke i don't remember. i can't find anything in my notes or bookmarks. i found this[1] just now, but there was no indication that i'd been there before. i did find some notes for an evening where i was playing with matrix room id's, but no mention of gitter.
     
     :shrug: can't say either way.
     
     [1]: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-gitter
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   • tuttle (tuttle@somsants.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 21:33:01 UTC tuttle

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     @lnxw48a1 @clacke I found this enlightening https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/matrix_future/
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   • Mitchell (stitchxd@gnusocial.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Mar-2017 21:34:29 UTC Mitchell

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     @clacke @lnxw48a1 @xj9 Pretty decent explination! Although to add on to XMPP - with XEP-0060 pubsub can be used to create a social network, blog, etc (I.E: https://movim.eu where XMPP is a backend to a federated social network) Matrix has a fantastic idea, and I love that it uses JSON because it is so much easier to use than xml imo. I believe that OStatus needs more work too, or current implementations of it are just not working properly (Like friendica or GNUSocial as an example where OStatus works, but is also kinda broken)
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2017 07:08:24 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • 災̷̡̆害̎̐͊の̴ͩ̅̔̏女̢ͭ̋͑ͨͤ͝王̡̂̔͆̾͘͟
     @xj9 Ok. :-)
     
     Anyway, now I know. Next time I see a project that uses a #gitter channel I will know how to join while staying in the warm comfort of #matrix. :-)
   • Ross Schulman (ross@social.rbs.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2017 14:08:31 UTC Ross Schulman

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     @clacke sorry, missed this somehow. Yes, it's per gitter but that's probably desired. You don't want to bridge into gitter rooms without permission/knowledge.

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2017 17:19:18 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • Ross Schulman
     @ross Gitter rooms that allow anonymous visitors should be fair game. But maybe that's not a thing? I have only gone into a gitter room once, and I don't remember if I had to use my github user.