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  1. Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2017 21:12:48 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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    ♻ KWVoIP: At @KWLinuxfest tomorrow @BobJonkman of @KWVoIP tempts the #DemoDaemons with a participatory demo of #FreeSWITCH http://kwlinuxfest.ca
    In conversation Friday, 27-Jan-2017 21:12:48 UTC from sn.jonkman.ca permalink

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    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 08:35:05 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      Everything takes longer… Presentations notes for @KWLinuxfest are online at http://sobac.com/presentations/kwlinuxfest/2017-01-28%20KW%20Linuxfest%20at%20Vehikl/
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 08:35:05 UTC permalink

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    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 08:59:04 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • Science Fiction
      All my computers are named after !SciFi authors. Started with Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, DelRey, Ellison; had a series of Simak, Sturgeon, Spinrad, and now I'm up to Zelazny. Grasped at straws for Jeppson and Leonard (Elmore? Nimoy?)
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 08:59:04 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 14:56:56 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      At the @KWLinuxfest, listening to Stephanie Rozek @srozek speaking about Hive Waterloo @HiveWR
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 14:56:56 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 14:57:54 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      There are some empty seatsat @KWLinuxfest - even if you're not registered, come on down! 200 Bathurst St., Waterloo
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 14:57:54 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:00:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Speaker schedule for @KWLinuxfest is at https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?eid=Z3FqN3Q1MDlxb2RqYnEza2JjMXAxNnZnNDAgbmxrYzM5anQ0cDBuYmM0cGs5cGo3cDVmaDBAZw&ctz=America/New_York
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:00:09 UTC permalink

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    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:08:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @SRozek says there's lots more to be done, and lots of activities in Waterloo. http://hivewr.ca/
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:08:10 UTC permalink

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        By June Macdonald from Hive Waterloo Region
        Hive Waterloo Region promotes digital literacy and open access to the web for all as a Mozilla Foundation Learning Community, and inclusivity in tech.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:53:24 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Next up: @KrisABraun demonstrates @KidWifi - a custom configuration of #OpenWRT
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:53:24 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:54:13 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Lots of techie people in the audience; @KrisABraun polls the audience for their interests
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:54:13 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:55:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Based on the audience interests, @KrisABraun may veer into "Startups and Free Software"
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:55:23 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:58:15 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      What is a startup? @KrisABraun says a startup is a means to quickly get an answer to a question
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:58:15 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:59:26 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @KrisABraun started looking a WiFi routers in October 2015, had something in people's homes in February 2016 - Startups are *fast*!
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:59:26 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:00:54 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      There are features that @KrisABraun wants to put in @KidsWiFi, but there's been no customer demand
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:00:54 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:08:47 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @KrisABraun tells stories of ordering 5000 units, find out it's a new firmware version. 5000 bricks?
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:08:47 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:10:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Happily, not 5000 bricks. Cracked open the cases by slamming them in a steel door, then using JTAG to troubleshoot
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:10:23 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:19:05 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • Coffee
      Now @KrisABraun is doing a live demo of @KidsWifi at @KWLinuxfest. The #DemoDaemons must have had their !Coffee today
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:19:05 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:28:11 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Lots of UX considerations in the @KidsWifi setup, eg. don't ask for timezone, capture it from the parents' browser
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:28:11 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:32:25 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      ♻ @kwlinuxfest: Want free pizza? Come down to the kwlinuxfest at 200 bathurst drive waterloo :)
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:32:25 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:37:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @KrisABraun shows the innards of the @KidsWiFi configuration from the command line
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:37:10 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:29:04 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
      • linux
      Now up: Jason Eckert @eckmeister on the history of !Linux and Open Source (I think he means !FreeSoftware)
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:29:04 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:32:50 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • linux
      DIY: The history of !Linux goes back to the 1940s and adding machines from International Business Machines
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:32:50 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:34:51 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @EckMeister tells us a portable OS was needed, so many corporations invented Multics
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:34:51 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:35:47 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      But Multics was too expensive, and too big in scope. Ken Thompson and Dennis Richie reduced it in scope == Unix
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:35:47 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:37:46 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      KT and DR sold the Unix source code; customers each created their own flavour: HPOS <> SunOS
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:37:46 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:41:55 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • gnu
      In 1985 @RMS developed !GNU to be a free operating system
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:41:55 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:45:31 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
      and in 1994 Eric Raymond rebranded !FS to "Open Source"
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:45:31 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:46:44 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      [editorial comment by me] Although Open Source provides the source code, it does not necessary provide software freedom
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:46:44 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:48:32 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      But in 1991 Linus Torvalds created a kernel based on Andrew Tanenbaum's book "Design and Implementation of Operating Systems"
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:48:32 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:53:05 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • linux
      By 1995 !Linux was so popular that Red Hat was created, and usage exploded
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:53:05 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:56:07 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • linux
      @EckMeister explains the "Distro": Same !Linux kernel and libraries, distributed with (different) additional software
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:56:07 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:01:06 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      History of Tux The Penguin: in a Usenet newsgroup there was discussion of dragons & such until Linus said "I like penguins"
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:01:06 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:07:31 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • linux
      At @KWLinuxfest, @EckMeister is showing us old commercials from IBM promoting !Linux
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:07:31 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:21:18 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Recommended reading: "Free As In Freedom" by @RMS; "Cathedral & The Bazaar" by Eric Raymond
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:21:18 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:23:01 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @EckMeister waxes enthusiastic about the ZFS filesystem
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:23:01 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:40:58 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Schwag! @EckMeister has a book to give away: "LinuxPlus Guide to Linux Certification" by... Jason Eckert(!)
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:40:58 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:00:35 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Now Marc Pare has taken the stage at @KWLinuxfest - the future of Open Source Software
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:00:35 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:04:12 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Marc says Open Source is still not widely accepted in corporations as the "reliable" solution
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:04:12 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:05:46 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Marc has statistics about the perception of security - 55% people say OSS is more secure, but 67% never check the source
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:05:46 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:07:24 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • libreoffice
      But !LibreOffice is well accepted as a secure package; used by, eg. the Italian army
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:07:24 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:08:44 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      !LibreOffice came from 1984, Marco Borries wrote StarWriter, later bundled with Base to make StarOffice
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:08:44 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:10:52 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      StarOffice bought by Sun Microsystems in 1999(?), renamed OpenOffice in 2000
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:10:52 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:12:33 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      Sun Microsystems bought by Oracle in 2010, but disagreements made the developers leave, and fork the code to !LibreOffice
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:12:33 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:16 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      OpenOffice is still maintained by the Apache Foundation, most developers are from IBM
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:16 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:34 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman FOSS is more likely to be secure on average, but that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of insecure things. Also it's not just about checking the source but also about the developer knowing that their code might be checked in future while writing it. That's an important psychological deterrent against backdoors, antifeatures and other malware getting into FOSS.
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:34 UTC permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:17:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • libreoffice
      Today, !LibreOffice is maintainted by The Document Foundation, headquartered in Germany
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:17:23 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:23:00 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      The ODF document format is the standard, the norm for use by gov'ts of Netherland, Taiwan, &c
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:23:00 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:24:17 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      New versions of !LibreOffice released every six months, next is due on 1 February
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:24:17 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:08 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      !LibreOffice maintains a list of "easy hacks" to make it easier for new people to contribute
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:08 UTC permalink
    • Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:17 UTC Annah Annah
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      • Bob Mottram
      @bob I think the important thing to realize is that while the social pressure to not have backdoors keeps programmers honest, it doesn't make bad programmers, or even good programmers who get a bit sloppy, more secure.  Just less likely to want to be a toadie.  IMO.
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:17 UTC permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:31:04 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      Marc Pare is reviewing some of the code contributions and achievements since the launch of !LibreOffice
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:31:04 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:33:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      "Document Liberation Project" is to create import filters to allow proprietary documents to be loaded by !LibreOffice
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:33:09 UTC permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:35:12 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman Maintained is much too optimistic there. Late last year, OO's commit history looked like an abandoned SourceForge project.
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:35:12 UTC permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:45:32 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      !LibreOffice has a certification program - still new, still being tweaked. But there's no North American agency providing certs
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:45:32 UTC permalink
      Stephen Michael Kellat likes this.
      Stephen Michael Kellat repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:47:36 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Marc Pare is looking for a venue to hold a LibreOffice Users Group meeting, have a hackfest, fly in some devs from Germany
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:47:36 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:53:18 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      It's difficult to get a count of !LibreOffice users, since there's no registration requirement. Based on downloads, about 140 million
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:53:18 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:55:28 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • libreoffice
      Looking for people interested in joining a !LibreOffice Users Group - join the LOUG, see the world!
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:55:28 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:08:49 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Next at @KWLinuxfest is Tony Thompson @Tonious on the !RaspberryPi and #Arduino
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:08:49 UTC permalink
      @mcscx@quitter.se likes this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:11:26 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      According to @Tonious, the !RaspberryPi 3 draws about 800 mW, enough that an Apple charger with 1m cable won't work
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:11:26 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:13:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious wants to make a portable !RaspberryPi using an #Arduino, but he's not happy with existing plans
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:13:10 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:15:12 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious explains the purpose of an #Arduino - it's an interface to real world hardware
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:15:12 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:16:07 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious starts with a small #Arduino program written in C to blink an LED
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:16:07 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:18:15 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious on optimizing compilers: "Don't do that. I'm the programmer, I know better."
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:18:15 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:22:01 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Now @Tonious goes over the hardware on a !RaspberryPi
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:22:01 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:24:45 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      and @Tonious compares that to the hardware on an #Arduino, which has maybe one quarter the hardware, far less complex
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:24:45 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:27:39 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious: "I'm a Unix programmer. I like ugliness."
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:27:39 UTC permalink
      @mcscx@quitter.se likes this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:28:37 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious is using a 'make' script to compile a program on the !RaspberryPi and upload it to the #Arduino
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:28:37 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:31:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious wants to minimize, reduce the #Arduino to just one chip, shows us a breadboard with five components
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:31:09 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:33:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious explains how serial protocols work. Remember start bits, stop bits?
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:33:09 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:36:36 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Now @Tonious shows us how to link the pins on the !RaspberryPi to his single-chip #Arduino breadboard
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:36:36 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:38:28 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      But, sadly, it doesn't work. @Tonious explains this is due to a new bootloader, which has tighter timings
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:38:28 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:44:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Now @Tonious explains the use of shift registers and an old debugging protocol he uses to transfer data
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:44:10 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:47:07 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      That's the SPI protocol, and it's very well supported in the hardware of both !RaspberryPi and #Arduino
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:47:07 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:48:59 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      The SPI is so well supported it's actually a device in the !RaspberryPi kernel: /dev/spidev0
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:48:59 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:53:33 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Next option: Use I2C = Inter-Integrated Circuit; wiring is simple, libraries are available
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:53:33 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:57:31 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      @Tonious shows us some command line tools to manage I2C, eg. i2cset, i2discover (?)
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:57:31 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:57:43 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      • Today I Learned...
      !TIL 'man ascii'
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:57:43 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:00:39 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      In conclusion, @Tonious will use a combination of SPI and I2C to manage his #Arduino from his !RaspberryPi
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:00:39 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:04:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Lots of hardware demonstrations at @KWLinuxfest today
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:04:23 UTC permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:06:16 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Next at @KWLinuxfest: @BobJonkman with a participatory #VoIP demonstration
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:06:16 UTC permalink
      @mcscx@quitter.se likes this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:06:26 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Hey, that's me! BRB!
      In conversation Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 21:06:26 UTC permalink
      @mcscx@quitter.se likes this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 17:53:55 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      • ana
      @ana@Indy.im I'll pass on your interest in a #LibreOffice User Group to Marc Paré, @MarcPar on Twitter. Where are you located?
      In conversation Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 17:53:55 UTC permalink

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