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1. mike (mike@loadaverage.org)'s status on Monday, 26-Sep-2016 00:46:57 UTC mike

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   The way that these W3C social initiatives have played out is that they start by mandating a protocol to solve everybody's problems. Everybody rubber stamps the protocol and then we start building applications based on that protocol. What they're missing is the first step - defining the problems that need to be solved. So far we're on about the 5th or 6th attempt to define a protocol to send messages back and forth. We've been sending messages back and forth since the 70s - it isn't that hard. Defining how you interact with privacy and permissions and *differences in permission models* is bloody hard. Every project has a different permission model. This is where the W3C needs to start if they ever want to be taken seriously. It's entirely possible (as we've discovered) that the standard protocols don't cut it when faced with these requirements. You need a different protocol which is desig…