@teleclimber @aral @cjd I guess the other thing I would say is "everyone has to start somewhere." Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

@teleclimber @aral @cjd #Yggdrasil is still on my list of things to try, but I wouldn't take that as an indication of network fragility - rather an indication that "hey, if 10000 of you are crawling the entire network space, you're going to really ruin the experience for Android users on 3G". Keep in mind this gives every participant a reachable IP on the network, so there's no ISP filter preventing that sort of thing like residential Internet often has.

@aral @cjd Alternatives to #TLS 2/

Moving up a layer, TLS can be used without public CA infrastucture (eg, #Syncthing) by exchanging key validation information in other means. Also, the #Noise protocol is a viable TLS alternative in many cases.

@liw I strongly suspect there may be only one person in the world that's used it longer than you. I switched in around 1995 or 1996, so I guess 26-27 years here.

I don't think I realized until just now how close to the beginning of Linux that was. That was an incredible amount of progress in just 3-5 years.

@liw #Linux was still the underdog for years after I started using it. It is amazing to look at how stagnant the former dominant players have become. Only Solaris has had any real innovation, and even there #OpenZFS and #BPF seem to be pushing forward more than #ZFS and #dtrace. AIX, Tru64, SCO, HP-UX, etc. have all either withered or died, and even Solaris seems to be heading that way under Oracle.

@vagrantc @cjd @duniter I really like those ideas. Captures my dislike of both proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. In fact, that's the first #cryptocurrency I'd consider getting involved with in any kind of serious way, as the others have serious environmental or social problems.