@cwebber @KARiley40 disposable packaging has been leveraged by producers to externalise their costs. They don't pay to maintain landfills so it just becomes "someone else's problem". If one form of disposable packaging is banned they will just switch to different disposable packaging.

Perhaps if the producers of such waste were made responsible for the actual disposal costs they would be more motivated to actually reduce wasteful packaging.

@teslas_moustache @cwebber @mlemweb

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@clacke I run Kallithea here because it is properly Free and it works with both mercurial and git (and I use both)

Closest to such a comparison I have found is this:

https://anarc.at/blog/2017-06-26-alioth-moving-pagure/

Pagure looks interesting too I think I will give it a look for my employer as an alternative to paying for the commercial edition of Gitlab

@JordiGH Today we have reverted back to the days of timesharing systems and isolated proprietary services that make decentralisation appealing, and we finally have technology to make barriers to participation low:

* cheap processing and storage
* affordable persistent broadband
* commodity virtualisation technology and services

and since no single service could ever take down the silos (even as broken as they are) highly federated successors seem to be the most likely outcome.