@HeavenlyPossum @djuuss meanwhile in the real world https://nitter.privacydev.net/KyleTrainEmoji/status/1803229471140671825

@djuuss I think that's the key difference in mentality, Chinese system is focused on material development as opposed to profit.

The government invests in these large infrastructure projects because they recognize that their inherent social value.

I recall there was a whole slew of articles like this a decade a go ridiculing HSR projects because they were so costly. Nobody's laughing now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/business/china-s-railway-boom-hurtles-into-the-red-idUSLNE75M045/

#tiktok

They don't want homeless people concentrating, forming communities, and establishing themselves in one area, because that starts looking less like isolated "bums" and more like a capitalist refugee camp.

This is some serious cyberpunk dystopia shit, where poor people live below ground and the rich up high.

@mezzodrinker yeah that's good to know, and it does look like they backpedalled on the whole fighting adblockers thing at least for now given how much backlash there was

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape yeah I think that from efficiency standpoint alphabet based systems have a lot of advantages.

And being able to figure out what the word you're not familiar with from how it's spelled is a big benefit. With the logograms you either know it or you don't.

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape like if I didn't know the logograms for fire and car there's no way for me to guess train from looking at the cahracters

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape yup, I think that's the biggest downside of the system, but it is what it is I guess. I've come to terms with it simply being a matter of spending the time to build the neural pathways. :)

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape I also find the isolation is the worst part, it's so depressing to live in such an atomized society

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape good analogy, and I know exactly what you mean. I really would like to move to somewhere like China one day, but it's pretty difficult to do at the moment.

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape My family ended up moving from Russia after the collapse, and eventually ended up in Canada, so that's where I've been living for around 20 years now.

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape I didn't know there was a sizable sub-culture of former USSR people in China. That's really cool.

I'm hoping that geopolitical tensions will sort themselves out eventually, and it'll be easier to make the move then.

I've been slowly learning Mandarin here on my spare time. It's definitely challenging, but slowly starting to get more comfortable with it. :)

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape and the tones are hardest part for me. I find a lot of words sound very similar, but mean completely different things. I have to use context to figure out what the word is a lot of the time.

And of course, writing is pretty challenging as well, but recognizing the characters is a lot easier than learning how to draw them. Pinyin is a big help there, since in modern world you don't really have to write anything by hand often. :)

@adiz @AgreeableLandscape I definitely expect the relations between Russia and China to keep improving. It seems like we're heading for a multipolar world again with China leading the opposition to US based world order. I'm hoping Russia will eventually return back to a form of a communist system under Chinese influence.

Collapse of USSR was a huge tragedy in my opinion, and it set back the development of former eastern bloc countries by decades. Many have now become western colonies.

@AgreeableLandscape can confirm. I grew up in Moscow during USSR time, and it's a highly populated city. Nobody worried about crime at all. Elderly people would go to parks at night. Parents would let their kids run around all day unsupervised. I would go out and play with friends all day, my parents didn't think anything of it.

Then once we transitioned to capitalism, crime quickly became prevalent all of a sudden.

deploying LLMs to production be like

@blobfrog it mentions any software or hardware that could be used to circumvent the ban

@schoolingdiana I think TikTok is largely a distraction, the goal of the bill is clearly much broader than TikTok

@mxl the law isn't specific to China, it's any country that US deems to be an adversary

@matunos the bill is intentionally worded in open ended fashion. This bit in particular means that effectively any piece of hardware or software could fall under the law