@neauoire
I honestly think the problem with learning to program is the attitude of what programming is for.

Instead of another tool to think with, to create and explore with, it is simply a skillset needed for a job in technology.

How can people ever enjoy computing when all the programming jobs are so boring? Or when the operating system itself is hostile to making programs?

Or even more pathetically, getting told that you are wasting your time if they are not learning C, C++, or Java.

@neauoire
I miss him.

I would say I should go back to learning Ruby, but I think the spirit of his philosophy can be found in other languages, such as Rebol, Factor, Racket, [every smalltalk variant], Newspeak, and of course, tal.

That said, I should learn Ruby again. It is the only Python I enjoy.

@neauoire I put Thinking Forth off until I finish Starting Forth, but I am starting to realize it was an unnecessary requisite.

The language is easy, it's the planning ahead that is hard.

I will be reading it next.

@neauoire Perhaps if I actually read these books I would be an adequate programmer by now.

@neauoire
Still, I can do a lot better than be a shitty librarian. Won't bore you with the rest of it.