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1. Thomas =:-) (tho99@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:59 UTC Thomas =:-)

   • Jon Worth

   @jon in any case, Schadenfreude as a word is rarely used outside the anglosphere, leastways I hear it rarely used in .de

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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:07:05 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Jon Worth
     @Tho99 @jon You mean you have "Die einzige wahre Freude ist die Schadenfreude"?
   • Thomas =:-) (tho99@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:07:06 UTC Thomas =:-)

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
     • Jon Worth

     @clacke @jon - we have the same. But in everyday use, fairly rare.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:07:07 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     (I think the original aphorism that was distorted into this may have been "the only true joy is the joy of creation", "den enda sanna glädjen är skaparglädjen" but the petty version has since long overshadowed the wholesome original 😃)
2. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 12:03:48 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
   Calling @chartodon help
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   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 11:44:44 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Colin the Mathmo
     @ColinTheMathmo That works.
   • Colin the Mathmo (colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 11:44:45 UTC Colin the Mathmo

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     @clacke I think that should go in my toot rotation. I have a script which every day takes the next item off a list, toots it, then puts it back on the bottom.

     I'll add that. Do you want to be credited? If so, how?

     Example:

     "My number one advice to my younger self: Your prototype *will* be put into production"
     -- Paraphrased from https://mathstodon.xyz/@clacke@libranet.de/111131868536836880

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 11:55:49 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     I originally posted this and other advice on microca.st, which sadly succumbed to entropy, and the post isn't in the Wayback Machine either.

     I later read it out loud in HPR #2179:
     hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr2…

3. Malinux (malin@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:34 UTC Malinux

   • Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis

   @Arotrios @siderea its a great post though I'm having trouble following through a series of toots. A blogging platform would help readability.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:34 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
     • Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis
     @malin @Arotrios @siderea
     ♲ libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1…
4. Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis (siderea@universeodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 12:04:31 UTC Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis

   It is incredibly frustrating that the only thing more stupid than Patreon is all the alleged Patreon substitutes that clearly don't even understand what Patreon does.

   Pro tip: Patreon has no meaningful competitors, and also it sucks, so there's a huge opportunity for somebody to kick sand in its face and take its lunch money. But to do that you would have to understand what actually Patreon does that is worth it to creators to allow Patreon to take 5% of their proceeds (and then pass on to them a second 5% in payment processing fees).

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   • Mark Gardner (mjgardner@social.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 12:05:10 UTC Mark Gardner

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     @siderea This was a really enlightening thread, but I’m glad your patrons can cap their monthly payments because if you were to charge per Mastodon post you’d bankrupt them 😉 https://universeodon.com/@siderea/111123007212375473

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   • Ángel Ortega (angel@triptico.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 12:05:20 UTC Ángel Ortega

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     Oh my. This thread is the most valuable and eye-opening miniessay on artist patronage platforms I've seen in years.
     
     Do you have this same content in a less temporary, time-proof format, like a blog post or whatever?
     
   • Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis (siderea@universeodon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:32 UTC Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis

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     • Mark Gardner

     @mjgardner Oh yeah, that's why I told them to. As the inestimable folks running r/Historians once put it, "Concision is not our brand".

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5. swiftonsecurity@infosec.exchange's status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:02 UTC SwiftOnSecurity

   UX designers who eliminated the filesystem from user consciousness in name of simplicity ruined the world and are morally culpable for shriveling minds of children who are unable to tackle the challenges of today thanks to a choice sold as advocacy for the user but was ultimately motivated by control of a disempowered customer.

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   • Brett Edmond Carlock (brett_e_carlock@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:16 UTC Brett Edmond Carlock

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     @SwiftOnSecurity
     The absolute misery and struggles I had teaching basic file management to students back even in like 2015 who had no idea that a file had to exist somewhere when downloaded, and you need to open files to work with them in a GUI tool...

     I felt bad because we wasted so much effort on this at the expense of later topics in #GIS.

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   • Steve Wart (swart@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:22 UTC Steve Wart

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     @SwiftOnSecurity Von Neumann knew what was best for children

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   • PJ Sliney :donor: (pjsliney@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:27 UTC PJ Sliney :donor:

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     @SwiftOnSecurity I was literally teaching file systems to High School students today, and had to demonstrate to them that their Macs, Androids, and iOS devices have file systems. It was enlightening.

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6. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:18:00 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
   Been reading that faux German loanwords thread the whole time while waiting for my breakfast order, so I almost let out "danke schön" when I picked it up.
   • Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:07:08 UTC Kermode

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     @clacke No one seems to notice which word you use, salamat, merci, danke, thanks, shukria... anything works. Just a noise at the right time :-)

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7. Jon Worth (jon@gruene.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:44 UTC Jon Worth

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   • Sten

   @stenhaastrup Sure, all languages have them to a greater or lesser extent. But Germans criticising an American publication for a faux-German expression is really off, that's all!

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   • Sten (stenhaastrup@eupolicy.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:49 UTC Sten

     @jon

     Danish has "speeder" = accelerator (in a car) and "butterfly" = bowtie. The first has always puzzled me, the last makes me smile.

     Italian gave us "i social" to refer to social media in general, and "lo smart working" for working from home.

     A bit of digging revealed that wikipedia has a whole page of examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudo-anglicism

8. Sven Geggus (giggls@karlsruhe-social.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:39 UTC Sven Geggus

   • Jon Worth

   @jon The German word for this is Scheinanglizismus https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheinanglizismus

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9. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:28 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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   • Jon Worth
   • Andreas Lindholm
   • thomas
   @andreaslindholm @thomas @jon I think while the songwriters are old enough to have had a "freestyle" and the kid is wearing one in the video (or was that a portable CD player?), the lyrics talk about a freestyler who can rock the microphone, so it's probably unrelated.
   • Andreas Lindholm (andreaslindholm@norden.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:29 UTC Andreas Lindholm

     • Jon Worth
     • thomas

     @thomas @jon I wouldn't know.🙂

     Of course, Finland and Sweden _are_ neighbours, so it is not entirely out of the question.

10. Andreas Lindholm (andreaslindholm@norden.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:23 UTC Andreas Lindholm

    • Jon Worth
    • openclimatedata

    @openclimatedata @jon In the 1980's, at least this Swedish teenager thought that "freestyle" was a word that was used the same way in English. Only when I arrived in the U.S. did I realize that I should say Walkman.😬

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11. Jon Worth (jon@gruene.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:16:22 UTC Jon Worth

    I’d caution against any Germans being too harsh on the New York Times making up the German word “Freudenfreude” (as an opposite of Schadenfreude)

    Let’s not forget the German language oddly uses the English word “Handy” to mean mobile phone - but it doesn’t mean that in English

    Languages evolve in peculiar ways!

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    • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:06 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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      • Cybermatron
      • Ju

      @flyingtomoon For jargon, like business terms and technical terms, just as much as trying to sound modern or cool, I think it can be that the concept and word comes from the Anglosphere first, and then nobody wants to make the effort or take the risk to be the first person to try to form consensus around a local term.

      @TheCybermatron @jon

    • Ju (flyingtomoon@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:14 UTC Ju

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      • Cybermatron

      @TheCybermatron @jon but then there's also the business lingo where probably a lot actually just comes from this desire to look modern. So yeah, I'd differentiate between everyday speech and the business stuff

    • Ju (flyingtomoon@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:17:15 UTC Ju

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      • Cybermatron

      @TheCybermatron @jon as a fellow german, I'd definitely attribute this change mostly to the internet. I'm part of Gen Z and therefore online a lot and have been for the majority of my life and I find myself using anglicised versions of words a lot more than my parents for example

12. Mason Protter (mason@fediscience.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:16:05 UTC Mason Protter

    • Sascha
    • Jon Worth

    @sascha @jon There's a lot of these out there. Just to add a few more sources of confusion when talking to Germans in English:

    Shooting, Whirlpool, and Bodybag.

    • Sascha (sascha@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:16:00 UTC Sascha

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      @mason Total confusion ensues when a Gearm speaker spends too much time on the English part of the internet it seems... Had to look up that bodybag indeed meant a bag for a corpse as I thought and then learned it has a totally different meaning in German.

    • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:16:24 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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      • Sascha
      • Jon Worth

      @mason What's a whirlpool in German? A Philips appliance or something entirely different, a third thing?

      @sascha @jon

    • Sascha (sascha@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 11:55:51 UTC Sascha

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      • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

      @clacke It's a jacuzzi or some other small pool with bubbles.

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13. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:28:13 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
    Yet another day of our modern lives has passed, connected to the information super highway, with up to the minute information all right here at our fingertips.
    • Hypolite Petovan (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:30:07 UTC Hypolite Petovan

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      @clacke Both a blessing and a curse, as far as I'm concerned.
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    • An Actual Loon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 09:15:39 UTC An Actual Loon

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      @clacke still no japanese goth gf, fedi has failed
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      • Hypolite Petovan
      @hypolite From a point both of global society and the deep down personal: Indeed, it has truly been both.
14. Ricardo (rgbes@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 07:57:57 UTC Ricardo

    Climate change: Six young people take 32 countries to court - BBC News
    
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66923590
    
    #ClimateChange
15. LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 00:34:01 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
    When #sonOne was about 12, he decided to learn to throw knives. He took a knife his grandfather had given him and spent about an hour a day in the garage, throwing the knife at the wall. By the time his mom figured out why there were so many holes in the wall, he was pretty good at hitting a target tip-first at that distance.
    
    A year or so later, he taught himself to throw pennies, spinning so fast they buzzed and curved. This time he practiced in his bedroom. By the time I realized what was going on, he could hit a target and punch though drywall or hollow doors.
    
    When people are persistent enough, they can do surprising things.
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 07:34:30 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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      When I was in high school, I knew a guy that decided to learn some acrobatics when he was about ten. He started by trying to jump, spin all the way around head over heels, and land on his feet in the same spot. By the time I met him, he was about five years into it, and he could do amazing stunts like you'd expect from a circus performer.
      
      He had, of course, broken a few bones along the way. His younger brother did not do any of those tricks.
      
      It is amazing what people can do when they set their minds to the task.
16. Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:31:04 UTC Teri Kanefield

    Hi everyone,

    I'm back at my desk and I'm supposed to be working on my Bill of Rights book, but I'm thinking about the comments I'm getting about Trump, gag orders, and the First Amendment.

    See! Overlap! So I'm actually doing paid work 😂 Who is goofing off? Not ME.

    I've been getting questions about this.

    I was poking around to see what people are saying, and found this comment from a lawyer⤵️

    I asked, "What do you suggest?" and clarification of "honest judicial review."

    No answer (yet)

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    • Andreas K (yacc143@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:31:09 UTC Andreas K

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      • Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷

      @TruthSandwich @Teri_Kanefield Well, if even lawyers suggest that, please can anyone point me to an explanation, why Mr Trump is not in jail, or considering that he claims to be a billionaire with businesses around the globe, why has his bail not been set at a reasonable level to his worth?

      You don't let a drug dealer walk around freely waiting for his trial either, right?

      Bankman-Fried had his 250m bail (!) also revoked for interfering with the investigation/trial, hadn't he?

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      @Teri_Kanefield

      Presumably, they’re suggesting pre-trial detention.

    • Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 00:13:13 UTC Teri Kanefield

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      @yacc143 @TruthSandwich

      See: https://terikanefield.com/trump-gag-orders-and-the-first-amendment-its-complicated/

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17. LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 00:08:55 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
    #TIL: The "Harvard Sentences":{https://harvardsentences.com/}
    
    > Harvard senteces are collection of sample phrases that are used for standardized testing of Voice over IP, cellular, and other telephone systems. They are phonetically balanced sentences that use specific phonemes at the same frequency they appear in English.
18. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:31:00 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

    • Michael Stanclift
    @jalefkowit @vmstan There is a Swedish book on the topic, the title of which translates to "you fucking shit system!" ("djävla skitsystem"), as one is likely to exclaim while using one of the products of these processes.
19. F00F/Eris :cat_is_blob_and_melt: ☯️ (f00fc7c8@0w0.is)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:30:57 UTC F00F/Eris :cat_is_blob_and_melt: ☯️

    what’s the deal with “updog”? when the payoff is “not much, what’s up with you” it’s way too respectful and wholesome to be a prank, yet when the setup is something like “i live on updog street” it’s too duplicitous not to be one

    maybe it is completely wholesome?

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20. Phil Rees (phrees@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 23:30:50 UTC Phil Rees

    • Sheril Kirshenbaum

    @Sheril We should also give credit to Louisa Tyndall for her silent co-authorship of many of John's papers and her highly effective research into the medicinal uses of chloral hydrate.

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