The !Mint site has been getting DDOS attacks, and web site breaches (.iso files and their checksum files replaced with malicious code) Could be they're still down, but I'm looking to upgrade to a different distro. Perhaps !Ubuntu !Matehttps://ubuntu-mate.org/
@bobjonkman hmm, I might give that a try. At least it looks like a normal desktop with a normal launcher that I can probably reorganize as suits me :) Or even Xfce - does Xubuntu still exist?