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1. Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 03:55:40 UTC Robert McNees

   Hard to believe the tech companies weren’t being completely honest with us.

   https://futurism.com/the-byte/ai-datacenters-worse

   • Lyricismist (lyricismist@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 08:37:44 UTC Lyricismist

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     @mcnees Microsoft says “ Hold my beer” https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/20/three-mile-island-nuclear-plant-reopen-microsoft

   • Nyolc (birdutterance@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 08:53:28 UTC Nyolc

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     @mcnees In dutch:

     Het uur, nrc, met Marietje Schaake

     https://open.spotify.com/episode/5FjB7pXuBcOvUlCIpuTFFf

   • tinkel (tinkel@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 13:12:28 UTC tinkel

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     @mcnees I wonder if the net effect is positive or negative when we subtract the environmental cost of the activity data centers replace?

     For example reduced traffic from remote work it enables. Culturally, if we can reduce people into nuggets who sit in their couch looking into their screens, we reduce traffic, tourism, shopping centers, and having children.

     This could be net win for the environment.

     #positiveThiking #counterfactual #opportunitycost

   • Sam (sambondor@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 14:51:36 UTC Sam

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     @mcnees And all that for a pathetic article spinner. If they don't come up with the cure for cancer in the next few months, we should throw the Ai bros into space.

   • LibertyForward1 :v_bi: (libertyforward1@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 15:41:56 UTC LibertyForward1 :v_bi:

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     @mcnees "Would the good people of the American Tobacco Association lie to us??"

   • Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Sep-2024 15:41:56 UTC Robert McNees

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     • LibertyForward1 :v_bi:

     @LibertyForward1 exactly

   • Daniel Detlaf (humanservitor@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Sep-2024 19:35:35 UTC Daniel Detlaf

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     @mcnees

     "AI datacenters"

     Just datacenters. Not that it in any way decreases the problem to frame it more accurately -- but if you use the internet at all, you are part of the problem. That's still the vast majority of what's happening in those datacenters.

     Generative AI is only a small fraction of it for now, although obviously plans are moving fast to change that.