ugh. I picked up a shitty NUC from ewaste and it had a label on it for an AI company.
ahh, another startup that burnt out trying to build some silly AI project on crap hardware. I wonder what they did? I check their URL:
ahh. healthcare. great, great.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:38 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ -
Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:26 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ @lp0_on_fire I'll have you know if anyone is a gaylord full of computers, it is ME
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lp0 on fire :unverified: (lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:30 UTC lp0 on fire :unverified: @foone, yes: we all wondered why that person was full of NUCs and whether he appreciates being insulted like that.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:31 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ because this keeps happening
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:31 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ Why the fuck is this on hacker news? ugh. I'm gonna need to run my own mastodon instance, aren't I?
If you found this on hacker news, you owe me 5$:
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:31 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ BTW I want to make something clear:
remember how I said there was a gaylord full of NUCs?
yeah. I took one. of like, a hundred.Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 likes this. -
Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:32 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ okay found their S3 creds. they hardcoded them in a Jenkinsfile.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:32 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ not a good sign to see a bash case statement for environment, and prod sets the server to FOOBAR.EGG
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:32 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ anyway I'm gonna be near their HQ on thursday. Maybe I'll stop by and ask if they're still in business, and if they are, do they know where their NUCs are?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:32 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ and in case anyone is getting deja-vu:
This is a completely different company than the other one I found like 3 weeks ago:
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:32 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ I'm really not the right person to work in computer security research, but it'd be nice to have a sort of consulting job with a local one where I can just point them at some really broken shit and they investigate it and maybe give me a commission
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:33 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ oh god this thing sends email from gmail
please tell me they didn't embed the google login into this device
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:33 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ tempted to drive past their HQ with a megaphone "I'VE GOT YOUR MODELS, YOU AI HACKS!"
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:33 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ wait. did they seriously stuff videos into their redis database?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:33 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ they sure did! I have a video of someone picking something up from outside a door.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:34 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ and now I can email the lead developer.
or just commit to their git repo, I guess.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:34 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ okay so the good news is that they don't just have S3 keys laying around in plain text.
the other good news is that they have a secrets manager
the bad news is that they rolled their own secrets manager
the extra bad news is that I have the source for said secrets manager
and the extra extra bad news is that it has to decrypt those keys without external input, meaning I have all the parts here to pull out their s3 keys -
Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:34 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ oh hey!
this thing authenticates to some of their servers (which are still up, even if the company might not be (this is unknown at the moment)) over SSH! using keys kept in the same home-rolled vault thing!
so I can SSH into their servers now!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:36 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ god the logs are full of errors about assorted video streams failing.
so this thing was connecting to something which had cameras. like, I can tell which room of the house failed.now I don't think there's any video stored on this device, but keep in mind: the fools that made this thing fill up with WAV files? they also designed the video streaming part. Where are those videos stored, and how safe are they?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:36 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ or maybe the fools who dumped all the NUCs from their entire "AI remote healthcare" in the recycling without yanking any drives are just somehow REALLY GOOD at knowing how to secure their s3 buckets.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:36 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ assuming their S3 keys aren't just saved in this harddrive somewhere
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:36 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ jesus christ this isn't the only time THIS MONTH I've found an IoT device and checked the filesystem contents and it's got their private git repos on it
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:37 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ but given the state of them when they arrived at ewaste?
no they did not
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:37 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ when you see a gaylord stacked high with NUCs and half of them still have USB fans attached, you know these were all just yanked off a shelf.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:37 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ I have now stuck the hard drive in my imaging box
it turns out it was in service as of June.
and this one has log errors about the sensors in the bathroom and bedroom. this was used. fuck.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:37 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ HEY FUN FACT: this was used as part of an Alexa/google home type thing! this is the "cloud" half, as in the part sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
It turns out every time the customer asked for something from the smart assistant, the WAV file was sent to the cloud boxwhere it is still stored. and I now have eleven thousand wave files
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:38 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ also I hope they wiped these hard drives
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:40 UTC Foone🏳️⚧️ I haven't exploited their git repos.
I haven't misused their leaked AWS credentials
I haven't gone to the media to try and expose this company.but I took only one of NUCs. The same content is on all the rest of them, I assume
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Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:48 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 @PhilipKing @foone Apart from a slur, it is also both a surname and a given name in the US and Canada as well as in the UK, although it is less common in this year than it was a century ago, for obvious bigoted reasons. -
PhilipKing (philipking@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:51 UTC PhilipKing @foone In British English , the word gaylord is derogatory slang (making fun of a member of the LGBT community) and would be considered offensive. (I had to look up what it also means in Canada/US). It’s true that we are divided by a common language.
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Ryan Finnie (foo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 09:41:55 UTC Ryan Finnie @foone I would totally get AI care from a site with the domain ahh.healthcare.great.
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