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1. jade (leftpaddotpy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:21:38 UTC jade

   Mastodon #psa: there's a post going around about #mozilla #firefox and the salary of the Mozilla Corporation CEO. This post is based on a blog post written by an openly transphobic fascist, Brian Lunduke, who has a beef with Mozilla for them treating trans employees like human beings.

   It doesn't matter how true the material is; we must not take decisions based on information collated with such motives.

   edit: post now changed to not link there. an improvement.

   • jade (leftpaddotpy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:21:35 UTC jade

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     • Mamus

     @mamus the reason we're having a discussion about the thing at all is because a fascist brought it up because he's mad for really really bad reasons. should fascists being mad be given that narrative power?

     analogy: you have a bunch of oil companies clubbing baby seals. one of them is clubbing 10 times as many seals as the next but a fascist writes an article about the one clubbing half as many as average because they have a rainbow logo, drumming up a bunch of outrage at that one.

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   • Mamus (mamus@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:21:37 UTC Mamus

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     @leftpaddotpy how do you end up talking about trans and facism when questioning the CEOs calary?

     No matter who brought it up. I did a post at the same time questioning it because mozilla send an email to everyone asking for donations.

     I have no clue who that person is but it's nuts to move the center of discussion. I think that's called whataboutitsm, right?

   • Cecilie 🧙‍♀️ (cvennevik@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:46 UTC Cecilie 🧙‍♀️

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     • Mamus

     @mamus The distinction matters because:

     The Mozilla Foundation does not fund Firefox development.

     The for-profit Mozilla Corporation, which *does not* receive any of the donation money, payrolls Firefox development.

     So this has spread like wildfire without people realizing:
     - Not a single dollar of the CEO's pay comes from donations.
     - The donations were never going towards Firefox anyway.

     https://mozilla.social/@s_hentzschel/111663921422153810

   • Mamus (mamus@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:47 UTC Mamus

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     • Patrizia

     @patrizia @leftpaddotpy thx. I still don't understand how that affects the discussion. There's a mother company that's more than capable to bring up the funds. Why should anyone donate to firefox? Why don't they give more working students a chance to have a look at firefox' code by paying them to do so?

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   • Patrizia (patrizia@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:52 UTC Patrizia

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     • Mamus

     @mamus @leftpaddotpy she's saying that it's the Mozilla Foundation that's asking for donations, not the for-profit Mozilla Corporation (owned by the Foundation), and commenting that the structure is somewhat confusing.

   • jade (leftpaddotpy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:53 UTC jade

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     • Mamus

     @mamus no, that is Mozilla Foundation. Mozilla is a maze.

   • Mamus (mamus@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:53 UTC Mamus

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     @leftpaddotpy I don't understand how that is a response to my question?

   • Mamus (mamus@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:23:54 UTC Mamus

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     @leftpaddotpy regarding the agenda: which company is worse in this case? Mozilla is the only company of that size that asks for donations I am aware of

   • Cecilie 🧙‍♀️ (cvennevik@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:24:02 UTC Cecilie 🧙‍♀️

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     • Mamus

     @mamus And yes, multimillion dollar pay to any individual is nonsense, but Mozilla being singled out over it when... *gestures at any other for-profit company* ...is utter nonsense.

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