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1. Howard Chu @ Symas (hyc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:47:55 UTC Howard Chu @ Symas

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   • Lars Wirzenius
   • Damien Miller

   @liw @djm and we're trending back toward closed gardens now. As usual, the present generation doesn't learn why things were done the way they were.

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   • Lars Wirzenius (liw@toot.liw.fi)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:47:56 UTC Lars Wirzenius

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     • Damien Miller

     @djm While I agree that the Postel / RFC robustness principle, especially as widely understood today, is largely the wrong thing to do in protocols in 2023, things were different in the early Internet and early web. Then the problem was not "how do I do this networking thing really well", but "how do I and others do this at all so that it gets wide use?". The principle mattered more back then. Without it, we might not have the Internet at all today. We might only have closed gardens.

   • Damien Miller (djm@cybervillains.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:48:00 UTC Damien Miller

     The "robustness principle" is the most destructive concept in protocol design and implementation of all time. We should be embracing its inverse: strict, explicit state-machines with model-checked proofs