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1. Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:19 UTC Tim Bray

   I gave up trying to explain to normal people why, when we interchange documents, the names of the files I send back to them never have any spaces in them.

   • andyc@pleroma.stream (andyc@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:09 UTC andyc@pleroma.stream

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Jack Baty

     @jbaty @publicvoit @timbray Make tab complete in bash a pain in the neck. I despise them.

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   • Jack Baty (jbaty@social.lol)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:12 UTC Jack Baty

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

     @publicvoit @timbray Regardless of the tooling or how I'll use them, file names with spaces look broken to me and I don't know if I'll ever get over it.

   • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode: (publicvoit@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:13 UTC Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

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     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @timbray @ndw

     Easy workaround:
     find -print0 | xargs -0

     No issue at my side as well.

     FYI: Local file management is somewhat my passion and fetish since years 😉 https://karl-voit.at/tags/pim/

   • Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:14 UTC Tim Bray

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @ndw @publicvoit

     find | xargs

   • Norm Tovey-Walsh (ndw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:18 UTC Norm Tovey-Walsh

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

     @publicvoit @timbray for $f in *.ext; do something $f | somethingelse > … mother [expletive] space [expletive] you.

   • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode: (publicvoit@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:50:19 UTC Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

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     @timbray I don't get it.

     I avoided spaces and used 7 Bit ASCII myself for many years.

     Since probably a decade, I don't see any issue with spaces. I even started to embrace German Umlaute like äöü or ß without noticing any issue. Even zsh completion is working perfectly fine with those characters. 🤷

     #PIM

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:54:52 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh
     • Steve Downey

     @Sdowney Yeah. It's 100% possible to write shell scripts that behave correctly for all file names, but it's a pain in the neck to get it right in every single place when it's just a one-off.

     Also, some tools like ssh have backwards compatibility concerns that force them to behave incorrectly, leading to ridiculous workarounds to make it work.

     @publicvoit @ndw @timbray

   • Steve Downey (sdowney@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:54:55 UTC Steve Downey

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @publicvoit @timbray @ndw
     Until what you invoke with xargs is shell, and so much of unix is implemented in shell script.

   • Attie Grande (attie@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 13:55:02 UTC Attie Grande

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     @timbray Do you also prefix it with a date in YYYYMMDD format?

     20230805_the_file.txt

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