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1. Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 15:58:28 UTC Robert McNees

   As excited as I am about Mastodon, stuff like this kills it for me. Over on Twitter I’m seeing multiple reports of folks with a focus on social justice getting banned or suspended by some of the big instances. The analogy that keeps coming up is comparing Mastodon to white flight to the suburbs, and that is untenable.

   • Fardels Bear (riggbeck@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 16:53:09 UTC Fardels Bear

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     @mcnees George Monbiot, Guardian columnist and environmental champion, has also been suspended at @georgemonbiot@birdsite.tcjc.uk. While it's clearly undesirable for an egotist like #elonmusk to have sole control of twitter, is it necessarily any better when multiple instances can make what seem like arbitrary decisions about moderation? If Musk is the problem, does federation potentially compound it? I want Mastodon to work, and I enjoy being here, but sometimes it feels a bit precarious. Kafkaesque even.

   • Steve Barnes (starfia@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 19:36:49 UTC Steve Barnes

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     You're seeing multiple reports of… people being banned from instances without also sharing details on which instances or any details about the reasons for which they were banned…?

   • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 (dgoldsmith@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 23:49:41 UTC Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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     @mcnees Eugen responded to this an apologized. It was a malicious report. Details in this two-post thread: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/109383947978442853

   • Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 00:58:09 UTC Robert McNees

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     • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

     @dgoldsmith I’m glad to hear they handled it. Hopefully this becomes useful input for how they identify and deal with malicious reports in the future.

   • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 (dgoldsmith@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 00:58:17 UTC Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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     @mcnees The moderation team is making mistakes, but I’m not seeing any signs of malice towards marginalized people. Eugen has always been on the right side of that. But the moderation team needs some work, no doubt about it.
     I’m not trying to make excuses, but there has never been a moderator or team in the history of forums/social media/you name it that never made mistakes. The goal is to get the rate down, and when a mistake is made be transparent about it and make it right.

   • Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 00:58:51 UTC Robert McNees

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     • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

     @dgoldsmith Thanks!

   • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 (dgoldsmith@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 02:05:30 UTC Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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     @mcnees The new moderation team is very green. There is no doubt mastodon.social and mastodon.online are having growing pains from the explosive growth over the last 3 weeks.