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1. Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:25 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

   It bothers me that there's no universally recognized storage medium between Floppy Disk and CD-ROM in terms of storage space.

   I'm doing a thing that would be really cool to release in a limited fashion on like a MD-DATA disc or a Zip disk or a click! disk or whatever, but no one has those, and they were never popular.

   The closest I can get is, like 64MB USB disks or CF cards or SD cards.

   I get frustrated by this every so often.

   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:22 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot cf is just ide in a smaller package.

     Anything with native ide support needs a passive adapter for CF.

     I'm sure shenanigans will be afoot.

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   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:23 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot more seriously, cf card readers are easy. Work over usb with adapters that are plentiful and cheap.

     SBCs are plentiful and cheap.

     Devices that play audio over USB are plentiful and cheap.

     Rigging up a cheap, chintzy solution should be cheap and easy as heck. Going for something fancier should be straightforward.

   • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗ (kelbot@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:23 UTC kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

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     @ajroach42 Yeah, there's lots of ways you could do it. I was wondering if you had a specific way in mind or specific devices.

   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:23 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot nah. I'll figure it out later.

   • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗ (kelbot@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:24 UTC kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

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     @ajroach42 What are the players going to be?

   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:24 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot uhhhh.

     Weird.

   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:25 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     Or, I guess, I could get some flash ROM and burn 16Kbps opus audio files on to ROMs and make cartridges and cartridge readers and really make the whole thing needlessly bespoke.

   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:25 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     So CF cards are the move. I'm going to standardize on CF cards for music distribution.

   • kepstin (kepstin@glitch.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:39 UTC kepstin

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     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @ajroach42 @kelbot as far as it goes, SD cards would probably be an easier sell for making weird devices out of cheap single board computers or SoCs. Basically of them can talk SDIO natively to interface with SD cards, a lot of them come with SD card (or, well, microSD) right on the board already. The IDE interface for CF needs adapters.

     (And for systems with IDE, the adapters to connect SD cards to IDE are readily available. I used one of those to convert my iPod classic to flash storage!)

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   • Andrew (bookseller era) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:21:39 UTC Andrew (bookseller era)

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     • kepstin
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kepstin @kelbot sure. But SD is Boring and Complicated.

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   • jollyrogue@social.tulsa.ok.us's status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:22:05 UTC jollyrogue

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     • Jason Nabein

     @jasonnab @ajroach42 Full-sized SD cards are basically what I expected the medium of the future would be back in the day.

     I did expect we would move beyond FAT as a file system though.

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   • Jason Nabein (jasonnab@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:22:13 UTC Jason Nabein

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     @ajroach42 a tiny SD card would be fun. ZIP disks seems like the best in-between though, but yes indeed good luck finding a unit for yourself, and selling to someone else that has one

     I feel people might buy it as a novelty thing. You could also produce some MiniDiscs maybe :blobcat:

   • jollyrogue@social.tulsa.ok.us's status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:22:19 UTC jollyrogue

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     • Jason Nabein

     @jasonnab I think most cards use exFAT these days, and I was including exFAT in that statement. 🙂

     @ajroach42

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   • Jason Nabein (jasonnab@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 00:22:22 UTC Jason Nabein

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     • jollyrogue

     @jollyrogue @ajroach42 i can only hope that 1TB microSD cards use exfat or, bleh, NTFS for some reason...