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1. Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:05:26 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅
   Watching Ace Ventura for the first time and oh my goodness after an hour of just the expected overacting, physical comedy and general silliness, suddenly there it is. Boom, unapologetic transphobic disgust as a supposedly comedic element.
   
   And then again. And again. And then it's a major plot point.
   
   Wow, the 90s huh. So much achieved, such a long road left to go.
   • Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:35:29 UTC Sexy Moon

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     @clacke from my perspective it was on almost nobody's radar until after 2012
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:35:29 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @Moon I don't know when I started to really get clued in, but 2012 sounds about right as a starting point. In the aughts we were still somewhat learning that you didn't have to be fabulous to be gay and you didn't have to be gay just because you were fabulous.
   • Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:38:49 UTC Sexy Moon

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     @clacke i never met an open gay person until university. from my perspective things have changed a lot in my lifetime.
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   • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃 (mdhughes@appdot.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:40:25 UTC Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃

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     @clacke Yeah, it was a pretty terrible ending, even then. Tho it was riffing on/exactly copying a scene from The Crying Game, which was aggressively bad and serious. Ace at least has a good first two acts, and the sequel's OK.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:40:25 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃
     @mdhughes I haven't seen The Crying Game. I've been assuming this whole time it was good on trans rights. Was it the opposite?
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:42:00 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Pete Zaitcev
     @zaitcev @Moon I'm pretty happy that my schoolmate in the 90s was able to come out in the 00s and be an openly gay county-level politician.
   • Pete Zaitcev (zaitcev@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Jun-2022 18:42:04 UTC Pete Zaitcev

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     • Sexy Moon
     @Moon @clacke and not for the better
   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jun-2022 03:14:14 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃
     @mdhughes Wait. The Crying Game is a film about people living through The Troubles, the IRA and their own lives.
     
     I mixed it up with Boys Don't Cry, which is about a trans man and the abuse he suffered.
     
     But The Crying Game with the stuff you described also went on to win a Best Screenplay Oscar.
     
     So maybe these two films are pretty good checkpoints on the changes in society.
   • Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃 (mdhughes@appdot.net)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jun-2022 03:14:15 UTC Digital Mark λ 📚 🕹 💾 🥃

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     @clacke Noooo. The girl is a psychopath, leads the boy on in classic homophobic "trap" story, and then the boy throws up excessively and cries because he saw a weiner. Then he makes up because he's also a psychopath. The reviewers of the time thought that was fine because they'd also throw up.

     Meanwhile, over here watching John Waters movies and listening to "Walk on the Wild Side", Boy George, & Annie Lennox, I was baffled by the reaction.