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1. Nicholas Bering (nbering@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 26-May-2022 03:02:15 UTC Nicholas Bering

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   • Jerry Bell
   • Rysiekúr Memesson

   @jerry @rysiek It’s expecting a lot of both students and teachers to get K-5 students to do more than coding, to be honest.

   Baby steps. Many of the teachers have not done more than the lessons they teach the kids. But that’s a step in the right direction.

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   • Rysiekúr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.technology)'s status on Thursday, 26-May-2022 03:02:16 UTC Rysiekúr Memesson

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     • Jerry Bell

     @nbering @jerry very much this.

     We *should* be teaching kids programming, as a way of showing them that computers are not magic, and giving them some agency in the digital world.

     Instead we're teaching kids coding to make them better code monkeys in the tech industry grinder.

     Yes, I am annoyed by this.

   • Nicholas Bering (nbering@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 26-May-2022 03:02:17 UTC Nicholas Bering

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     • Jerry Bell

     @jerry That sounds about right. And I think people miss the point of teaching it young if they expect kids to treat it as a future career path.

     At early ages, it’s about giving them foundations in case they want to learn more later. Learning later requires them to work past preconceptions taught in higher maths.

   • Jerry Bell (jerry@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 26-May-2022 03:02:22 UTC Jerry Bell

     In other news, I saw a snippet of an interview about coding vs programming and thought it was quite interesting. Context was about the big push to learn to code.
     The comment was “Learning to code is to programming like learning to type is to writing”