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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 14:52:35 UTC Aral Balkan

   Russia hasn’t just invaded Ukraine, it has declared war on Europe. We wait to see at what point Europe understands this.

   • Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 14:52:35 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅

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     @aral It understands, but there is no cheat sheet for what to do next when your opponent makes his own rules.
   • ottona (ottona@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 15:16:10 UTC ottona

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     • Niko :mverified:

     @niko @aral RU stated a zillion times it has no interest in invading UKR whatsoever. guess what happened.
     also, you do nothing to refute @aral s statement, yet you tell him to reconsider.

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   • Niko :mverified: (niko@masto.nobigtech.es)'s status on Monday, 21-Mar-2022 15:16:11 UTC Niko :mverified:

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     @aral do you aknowledge the motivation for such thing from Russia? I don't think the territorial interest of Rusia goes that far, Rusia itself is almost 3 times bigger than Europe already (in size).

     I thing that statement is the pure Western propaganda and you should maybe reconsider the arguments of your statement.

     Think of it like this: thinking a problem is real makes it real. I think European intelligence and OTAN already knows better than us.

   • ottona (ottona@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:26:55 UTC ottona

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     • Niko :mverified:

     @niko @aral so we let a genocide next door happen just because it's none of our business? i sure am happy the allies were of different opinion back in ww2.
     and now this is our moment to prevail over another fascist system.

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   • Niko :mverified: (niko@masto.nobigtech.es)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:26:56 UTC Niko :mverified:

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     • ottona

     @ottona @aral of course, help must always be there, but stating something that we don't really want it to happen does not help. No one wants war on Europe, because it could probably be the end of it all, why should we even consider it?

     Remember the last country that considereded NATO was a thread to them so it used it as a pretext to invade, displace and kill a lot of people in a country? Yeah, i'm talking about Russia.

     We should not do the same mistake, Ukraine politics is non of our business

   • ottona (ottona@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:26:57 UTC ottona

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     • Niko :mverified:

     @niko @aral if it helps, a RU head spin doctor recently stated, with all the sanctions already in place there's no reason for RU to stop at the UKR border.

     we're dealing with a fascist madman here, waging a war of annihilation. we need to be prepared for everything. and help UKR as best as we can.

   • Niko :mverified: (niko@masto.nobigtech.es)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:26:58 UTC Niko :mverified:

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     • ottona

     @ottona @aral i just say that we don't know what's going on. It's obvious that the conflict caused a lot of troubles in Europe, but thats far from having a bellic conflict with Rusia in more Europe countries.

   • ottona (ottona@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:27:00 UTC ottona

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     • Niko :mverified:

     @niko @aral niko, let's not be dreamy: negotiations are still possible only BECAUSE the ukraine is provided with the means to proper defend itself.

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   • Niko :mverified: (niko@masto.nobigtech.es)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2022 09:27:01 UTC Niko :mverified:

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     • ottona

     @ottona @aral a War should not be any possibility, the help from us must go to the refuges and in the diplomatic negociations, not on weapons and military, which causes more deaths.