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1. LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-2022 03:32:04 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

   • Alexandre Oliva
   @lxo After the current leader leaves power, is there political will to fund rooftop solar?
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-2022 20:55:16 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

     • Alexandre Oliva
     @lxo Because the primary way to get hydrogen is to use electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen.
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-2022 21:10:36 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     It is actually scary that people can be so ignorant that they think https://mastodon.lol/@HerbSteelbranch/107587761350095979 is a viable way forward.
     
     Sure, let us kill millions of people in cold climates because we believe hydrogen is going to magically supply us with the power to keep going.
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-2022 21:17:52 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     It isn't just this person. I saw another conversation earlier today in which someone said we should immediately and globally prohibit the extraction and burning of petroleum in order to move to renewable energy. As much as we may feel that the change needs to happen, this way causes millions of people to freeze and starve to death, wars, and millions of refugees.
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-2022 03:28:43 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

     • Alexandre Oliva
     @lxo I think the thing that is hard about it is that one needs to find a place where power generation is feasible, but power transmission and / or storage mechanisms are too costly, but which still has abundant water and some way to transport the ( chilled and pressurized, I would expect ) hydrogen to its point of use. Probably not insurmountable, but definitely not a backyard project.
     
     As for power distribution companies, in California, most home-based solar and wind energy projects are tied into the power grid, and then bound by contracts that cap the utilities’ payments to just under the customer / renter / homeowner’s yearly price. In other words, even though the homeowner pays for the generation equipment and maintenance, at best, they can bring their own electricity cost down to zero.
     
     I don’t think the US as a nation is ready to even think about finding a way for most people to live without dependence on the electrical utility.
   • Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-2022 04:35:29 UTC Alexandre Oliva

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     he's privatized much of power generation and transmission, so now any efforts to enable rooftop generation are going to be taken as threats to those profits. regulation and public funding could confront that, but I'm not hopeful, it's going to be an uphill battle. which sucks, because our hydroelectric generators are operating at low capacity and a lot of thermal plants are making up. a significant overlap between their owners has led to speculation that reservoirs of hydroelectric plants have been emptied so that they could run and sell the more expensive power from the thermal plants. which sucks for us, because they're not only more expensive, they also pollute more, and the fresh water has not been easy to replenish
     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} repeated this.