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1. Douglas A. Whitfield (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2020 17:48:14 UTC Douglas A. Whitfield
   look at my purdy picture: https://www.openlogic.com/open-at-home
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2020 18:34:50 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @musicman Enterprise Architect now? #Fancy
   • Douglas A. Whitfield (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2020 14:50:58 UTC Douglas A. Whitfield

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     yeah, the whole "Enterprise" thing is our marketing thing. Like I don't know if our sales people would literally tell a startup to go to Tidelift because it is harder to get a company to switch than to join but to me Tidelift is our only competitor. That said, what we offer is very different than what Tidelift offers.
     
     I know some in the organization see Red Hat as a competitor, and sure, our CentOS offering directly competes with RHEL, but there are literally 30 people in the openlogic slack channel and at least three of those people are splitting time with other teams (I don't know about all the sales and marketing folks) and one of them is an IT person.
     
     Of course, we do have an IT, HR, and finance that are shared resources and other than the one, I don't think any of those are in the group.
     
     As for Red Hat, Wikipedia says:
     Number of employees
     13,400 (as of February 28, 2019)
     
     I have plenty of thoughts about our competition, but we support something like 400 packages, so the list of competitors on single applications ends up being really long and not an interesting conversation, so I will just leave it there.
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2020 19:03:44 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @musicman Yeah, well “enterprise” does seem to be the magic word that unlocks corporate (and government) CIOs’ ears and turns their attention to what the salesperson is presenting.
   • Douglas A. Whitfield (musicman@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 31-Jul-2020 15:54:57 UTC Douglas A. Whitfield

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     well, "enterprise" is largely a bad word in the startup space, to be equated with slow and/or complicated.
     
     I am having a related argument about Java. Maybe it is true that the Java ecosystem is too complicated. I was just yesterday unable to get something to work in IntelliJ and I have no idea why. It works in #Eclipse. In any case, I think the Java-naysayers probably don't know about things like https://quarkus.io/
     
     I think there is a good argument about not using C or C++ for a startup, unless you are doing something that requires realtime, but I don't see the argument with Java.
     
     I think Java had years of uncertainty after the Sun acquisition, and #Java 8 certainly has issues with modern practices, but Java 8 came out before K8s.
     
     Considering #K8s came out the same year as Java 8 and #Mesos had been presented first 5 years earlier, it's easy to say that Java 8 was a missed opportunity. That said, a lot of things you would have liked to see in Java 8 came in Java 9.
     
     Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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