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1. Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Sep-2019 17:00:32 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

   • Kimberly A. Riley

   @KARiley40 Definitely good to eliminate that.

   It's true that people hyperfocus on plastic straws... even in the consumer sector, omnipresent plastic wrap around nearly everything purchased is probably more serious. That said, awareness starts somewhwere; the main thing is, can it spread? (And ack that you're pushing for spreading it to some other things.)

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Sep-2019 17:06:10 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Kimberly A. Riley

     @KARiley40 What I don't agree with is that if we want to be "on target" for an environment that is inhabitable for future generations that individuals won't be inconvenienced in the short term. It's not just straws; industrial use of disposable plastic has, in the short term, reduced the cost of consumer goods.

     But in the long run, if we change our methods of manufacturing, I don't think it will be a significant reduction of convenience. There's a lot of money for innovation there too.

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Sep-2019 17:09:10 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Kimberly A. Riley

     @KARiley40 Not only reduced the cost of, has increased short-term-convenience. But long-term, we're taking a "loan against the future" that cannot be repaid because we are making future life harder.

     I see a lot of my peers in my generation (millenials) blaming financial situation on our parents' generations making life harder for us for their convenience.

     But that's going to be nothing compared to "converting the planet to trash", which has accelerated in our generation. We need to change.

   • Kimberly A. Riley (kariley40@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Sep-2019 17:15:32 UTC Kimberly A. Riley

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     @cwebber I fully agree with the previous two posts... Because if we don't fix this, like right now, then the only solution will be to get rid of all plastics.. all of them. Like we lose that privilege as a species.

     And I don't want to end up there, because the harm it will cause.

     The solution I know, will be complicated. We need innovation, on all fronts. We need things that functionally are plastic, but when disposed aren't.

     I know this is being worked on.

     Christine Lemmer-Webber repeated this.