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1. Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 05:50:58 UTC Temporary Marjolein

   • zoowar
   @zoowar so what does that mean? pulling a gun is reason to be killed only if you're black?
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:01:11 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar there's a huge difference between 'be shot' and 'be killed'
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:02:23 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar the problem is police shooting to kill - as if they're not police but judge and executioner. they need to be trained NOT to do that
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:12:43 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar sure they can protect themselves. that STILL doesn't imply shoot to kill.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:18:04 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar that's a problem - they should not do that. Police here are trained NOT to kill, and when that still happens - unintentionally - there is an automatic investigation
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:29:03 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar no it's not
   • zoowar (zoowar@indy.im)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:30:35 UTC zoowar

     in reply to
     Where would you have them aim?
     Temporary Marjolein repeated this.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:32:07 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     in reply to

     • zoowar
     @zoowar say the shoulder or arm that holds the gun
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:36:45 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar "may" is not enough
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 06:43:03 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar what if? is that even likely? I don't know how the body reacts when shoulder or arm is shot but I'd assume it would relax muscles, not contract them.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 07:26:16 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar If they're still alive they're still a human. killing humans should be avoided at all times
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 07:27:10 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar besides, in that situation the *policeman* is a threat
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 07:31:07 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar That reasoning treat killing as the aim. Killing should NOT be the aim, the aim should be avoiding that
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Dec-2014 07:36:53 UTC Temporary Marjolein

     • zoowar
     @zoowar he is to the person he wants to kill!