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1. Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:36:34 UTC Temporary Marjolein
   want to read a bit before sleeping? better read a paperback or a paper magazine: "Ebooks at night won’t help you sleep tight, US study finds" http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/dec/23/ebooks-affect-sleep-alertness-harvard-study
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:42:32 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk But I gather, "old fashioned" ebooks, with no back light should be OK?
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:44:29 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius with no backlight? maybe...
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:49:21 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius It seems to be the bluish light that is disrupting the production of melatonin - which is what makes you sleepy. Not the first time I'm reading about this either. So if there's no backlight, what light is there? It may still be disruptive
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:58:45 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk from the BBC article: "Original Kindle readers do not emit light so should be fine, say experts." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30574260
   • Johnny Null (johnnynull@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:58:47 UTC Johnny Null

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     @sazius I'm assuming yes. It's all this crazy bright artificial light we're jamming in our eyes 24/7.
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 14:59:31 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk I don't have a Kindle myself since I'm opposed to DRM, but I have another old fashioned ereader without any light. Only light is from your bedside lamp, same as if you were reading a normal book.
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:01:23 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     • Johnny Null
     @mk @johnnynull Another thing that affects my sleeping with computers and tablets is multi-tasking and constant stimuli. This is why I try to turn off my computers ~1h before I go to bed. Old "dumb" ereaders are OK, though since they don't have any networking :-)
     Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:01:23 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius "should be" sounds like they didn't actually test it. I'm sceptical: even a little light (of the 'right' color) may be enough to cause the brain to produce less melatonin.
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:04:57 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk but they don't emit any light at all - only reflect from their surface, like paper books do
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:05:20 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     @sazius I don't understand why people want the constant interruptions of 'networking' telling them there is mail, a message, etc. Why not just turn off the alerts? Then you can concentrate.
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:08:21 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk I already turn off all alerts, but then I can't stop myself from being compulsive and check it anyway :-) So better turn everything off and enjoying some offline time :-)
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:20:59 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius I only check mail when I'm really waiting for something, otherwise I try to check once a day and sometimes don't even get around to that. Statusnet is not "important" but generally more of an entertainment thing. Take a break, check SN! :) Saying good night is also a way to stop (unless my eye catches something I want to react to, but that is rare).
   • Jon Kulp (jonkulp@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:28:02 UTC Jon Kulp

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius @mk I won't be putting my Kindle down. I fall asleep faster than ever.
   • backuptheru (backuptheru@sn.theru.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 15:36:08 UTC backuptheru

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @jonkulp @sazius @mk I use twighlight on my tablet/phone and redshift on the computers so that …
     Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) repeated this.
   • sazius on Mayfirst (saziusmayfirst@social.mayfirst.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 16:22:29 UTC sazius on Mayfirst

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     @mk I guess mail isn't such a big problem either. It's just all the other things, on a computer it's too easy to multi-task with various things and that's cognitively stressful :-)
   • Johnny Null (johnnynull@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 16:55:27 UTC Johnny Null

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius @mk An excellent routine.
   • Temporary Marjolein (mk@oracle.skilledtests.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 20:17:48 UTC Temporary Marjolein

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     • Jon Kulp
     @jonkulp I don't have a problem falling asleep either - if anything, I fall asleep too early!
   • Jon Kulp (jonkulp@micro.fragdev.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Dec-2014 20:20:02 UTC Jon Kulp

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     @mk same here! LOL we're #old (at least I am...)
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Dec-2014 01:21:05 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • sazius on Mayfirst
     @sazius Yeah I'm doing that all wrong.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Dec-2014 01:29:30 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • backuptheru
     @theru Thanks for the tip! Using f.lux on my Windows work computer, installed Twilight on phone now.