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1. Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:14:05 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

   • Catonano
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   @nev @brainblasted @catonano I agree that such communities try to use it as a dog whistle, but I think there are reasons to defend the principle, but the way white supremacists are using it *isn't* within the principle, which needs to be called out.

   Some of the most important aspects of freedom of speech are also the freedom to filter and the right/responsibility to call someone an asshole, which many don't get... "you can't say that, it's their freedom of speech". Yeah I can; this is mine.

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   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:16:37 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @nev @brainblasted @catonano White supremacists have *no interest* in actual freedom of speech; they're lying, and we should call them liars. Look at how differently they respond when they say something "controvercial" vs when someone says something they don't like. They'll claim they can say anything *unchallenged*, anywhere, because of freedom of speech (false), but threaten violence against those they disagree with.

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   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:21:37 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @nev @brainblasted @catonano This is really important IMO. Look at how Trump has expressed over and over that he'd love to see journalists punished and threatened. As bad as things are now, the only thing that's holding him back from that (and he would love to do it) is our tradition of freedom of speech and integrity in this culture. Nobody benefits from lack of freedom of speech more than a fascist.

     Call white supremacists liars. They don't want freedom of speech, and we know it.

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   • Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ (bob@soc.freedombone.net)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:23:10 UTC Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅

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     @cwebber @nev @brainblasted @catonano The claims on "free speech" by the far right were never honest and for them it's not even a new tactic. They're just reheating the rhetoric of the 1930s and deploying it in a modern context.
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