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1. Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:05:25 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

   • Catonano

   @brainblasted @catonano Co-option of the term "free speech" scares me when by those who want to be allowed themselves to speak on all platforms but who are are more than willing to threaten people who speak in ways that they believe are oppositional to their own views. So-called FSEs are not consistent, and it's ok and even good for communities to define their own boundaries.

   The muddying of the waters is also dangerous because free speech is one of the few defenses against fascism we have.

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   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 16:10:09 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Catonano

     @brainblasted @catonano That said, I think that there's a deeper level at which this issue can be analyzed than I have time to put in today, but have been meaning to write about. Sadly I think it isn't as simply as https://xkcd.com/1357/ either for the same reason that I do not agree with capital-L Libertarians: I believe that "many things become governments". But that insight can help lead us down the right path... something to discuss later, though.

   • The Book of Kels (nezchan@wandering.shop)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2019 18:34:35 UTC The Book of Kels

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     • Catonano

     @cwebber @brainblasted @catonano

     Free speech is a good thing. It allows people to express their views without fear.

     Freeze Peach, which is what these folks are after, is the ability to be offensive or incite hatred while you're not allowed to complain about it.

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