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1. Vale@ganbara.nai (valerauko@pawoo.net)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:11:40 UTC Vale@ganbara.nai

   #expanse was apparently renewed for season 4 at amazon after being shot down by syfy https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/expanse-officially-revived-season-4-at-amazon-1115160

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:15:53 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @valerauko It's so weird. It's the best sci-fi to happen to TV ever, and I haven't even gotten around to watching S03, and they already canceled the series? Praise network competition!
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:17:47 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @valerauko I was considering adding "and yes, I mean that, including Firefly".
     
     Firefly was very good, but The Expanse is very, very good.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:20:09 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @valerauko hehe, yeah, I was a bit disappointed when that started happening, but just had to adapt to "ok, so that's the kind of universe we're in".
     
     The drive is also a gimme we have to accept.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:23:45 UTC Hallå Kitteh
     @valerauko :-)
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:28:54 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @pettter @valerauko I'm not saying The Expanse is better TV. I'm on the fence there. It's better Sci-Fi, even including the alien magic. Firefly has characters and plot deciding what's possible, and doesn't go into how the universe might work. The Expanse has everything plausible and realistic, and then draws a sharp line "ok, but here's the magic drive", "ok, but here's the alien space magic".
     
     The politics of The Expanse makes very much sense and is explored, whereas the politics of Firefly is "well there was a war and one side lost and we think the winners are evil", and some vague corporate state vibes.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 07:30:45 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @pettter @valerauko Firefly is definitely more fun and has cooler/awesomer characters. It's more adventure and wish fulfillment and being awesome in space. The Expanse is slower, more drama and more "going to the bathroom in zero-g is complicated".
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 08:11:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @pettter @valerauko Right, talking the science to death is not good scifi. And I don't mean that TE is better Sci Fi because it is more realistic. Well, I do mean that, but what I really mean is that it is consistent in its applications of physics, whereas FF has no rules and is just really good technological space fantasy. They're just people who want to go places and the places happen to be innumerable planets in an exotic star system.
     
     Where FF doesn't explore anything about the rules of physics and their implications, TE acknowledges that it has to invent a magic space drive to make a Martian superpower possible in a short time.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 08:13:00 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @pettter (rendezvous)
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 26-May-2018 08:17:24 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @cereal @valerauko I wouldn't know (sadly?).