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1. Ellie (noelle@elekk.xyz)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 20:48:05 UTC Ellie

   Broadening a thought: We'd be better off if we stopped talking about "the internet of things" and started talking about "computers don't always look like we expect them to".

   Instead of saying "internet-enabled" it might be wise to say "regardless of what it looks like, that's a computer and you should treat it like one".

   "Somebody hacked my fridge!" Yes, your fridge has a computer built into it and you should treat it like a computer (and demand that the manufacturer treat it like one).

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   • Sydney "The Riddle Of The Meds" Falk (sydneyfalk@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 23:21:30 UTC Sydney "The Riddle Of The Meds" Falk

     @noelle

     "So this car is HACKABLE, huh?"

     "It...drives itself to whatever address you give it, knows when it's running out of gas and finds a gas station FOR you, and almost never hits anything ever at all."

     "Yeah. Because COMPUTERS. So it's HACKABLE."

     "..."

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   • Hugh Messenger (cheesegrits@notvery.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 01:27:14 UTC Hugh Messenger

     • Doc Edward Morbius ⭕

     @dredmorbius @noelle I remember attending a talk by Mark Weiser, "father of ubiquitous computing" (which, loosely speaking, is now the IoT + mobile) at Xerox PARC in, erm, well, a long time ago, back when I was doing systems admin there. He was enthusing about 'puters being "in the woodwork everywhere", and I asked who was going to do the systems admin - security and updates. I was frostily told this was a "non issue". Yeah, right.

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 01:37:09 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @cheesegrits @dredmorbius @noelle
     
     "[We will have figured out programming by then]"
   • Sydney "The Riddle Of The Meds" Falk (sydneyfalk@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 01:51:35 UTC Sydney "The Riddle Of The Meds" Falk

     • Doc Edward Morbius ⭕

     @dredmorbius @noelle

     The problem isn't complexity, IMO.

     I mean ink and paper are actually shockingly complex things, but the 'interface' of 'writing on paper' has been relatively standardized in the collective human mind at this point -- but that's still pretty recent. The evolution of pens, of water-soluble ink, of papers made with varying materials and thicknesses and purposes, etc. It took a long damn time.

     So computer interface use may not be 'standardized' for a much longer while yet. :\

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