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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 03:13:20 UTC Hallå Kitteh
   PGP and OMEMO support. Dino looks like it could be a nice desktop XMPP client.
   
   https://framasphere.org/posts/e89b3400a39d0135d1d72a0000053625
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 03:23:20 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
     @roka I saw it, and I agree. But I'm probably biased because I don't have any pre-existing contacts with OTR.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 03:35:08 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
     @roka
     
     Scenario:
     
     You're building a new thing. You want functionality X. A new specification for X that does everything you want has recently emerged. What do you do? Do you spit in your fists and go to work implementing all the previous attempts at achieving X?
     
     I think you have your bias because you are using OTR, and I have mine because I'm not.
     
     I can justify my bias like this: If we're trying to grow XMPP in general, and neat clients is an important part of that, then newcomers won't be attached to OTR, they'll take whatever is offered.
     
     I think efforts on usability are better spent than efforts on implementing OTR.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:33:14 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
     • DT
     @dt @roka
     
     > good E2E encryption
     
     The UX is horrible. But sure, the encryption itself is, I assume, top-notch, and at least it's there.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:35:01 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • DT
     @dt I'm sad it didn't get better before they went into community development mode.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:36:52 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • DT
     @dirb @roka @dt Isn't there an IRC front-end that heldscalla is even running?
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:37:52 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • DT
     @dirb @roka @dt JSON doesn't even have an X in the name.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:41:17 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • DT
     @dt Communism.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 04:42:02 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • DT
     @dirb @roka @dt or linux
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:08:26 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • DT
     @dirb @roka @dt Except if I want to talk with IRC from my mobile I need to set up bouncers and shit.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:39:37 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • DT
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     @dirb @roka @dt @dogjaw Cool. Haven't heard of https://github.com/mujx/nheko before.
   • !!!! (dirb@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 12:58:57 UTC !!!!

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
     • DT
     • ay
     • Kaiser
     @dogjaw @roka @clacke @dt @ayy No, It has a legitimate use, it's like the fediverse. what would be the point of GS if every instance was its own island?
     Hallå Kitteh repeated this.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 17:12:11 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • Kaiser
     @ayy @roka @dirb @dt @dogjaw
     
     Yes, the only reason RFC 822 defined server-to-server communication was that everyone back in 1982 were using webmail.
     Stephen Michael Kellat repeated this.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2017 03:20:54 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Ja tu zara go szabelką zaciukam xD
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     • ay
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     @ayy @roka @dirb @dt @dogjaw Yes, the core of it is really identity. I didn't get it when Moxie was talking about it, but that really is it. The home server is also involved in boring technical details and things are synchronized and whatever, but the main point is I register an account somewhere and now I have access to all these offerings, and nobody is in charge of the catalog.
     
     Sure, people run networks on IRC servers, but then there's only one namespace. If I don't like the central version in that IRC network of what a #britbong channel should be about, that's it.
     
     I really don't get how we can be having this part of this conversation on a network that wouldn't exist without federation. I wouldn't know you existed. It enabled this.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2017 03:21:50 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     in reply to
     networks of* IRC servers