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1. Craig Maloney ☕ (craigmaloney@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 00:47:41 UTC Craig Maloney ☕

   So many bright people I know are either out of work or are dissatisfied with their current employment. Wish there was some way I could figure out how to weave all of this talent into something where everyone could be happy and fulfilled. There has to be a way; some sort of cosmic pattern we can use to make things into a quilt of awesome or something.

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   • sajith (sajith@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2017 02:08:10 UTC sajith

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     @craigmaloney @clacke I think one possible answer is worker owned co-operatives.

     https://wingolog.org/archives/2013/06/05/no-master

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2017 04:24:57 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @sajith @craigmaloney Oh! I had no idea Igalia was this kind of thing. And I do read Wingolog on occasion, just not all the way back to 2013. Will read the series when I have a moment.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2017 15:21:39 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney I have no idea what I was reading in 2003. Probably Slashdot at best.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 02:50:06 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney You are mistaken. It is not a thing.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 02:51:16 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney Come to think of it, I *do* know what I was reading (and a little bit writing) in 2003!
     
     wiki.c2.com
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 18:37:04 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney Well, I use myself as a proxy for whether it's a thing and I stopped following it years ago. ;-)
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 18:47:12 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney I learned most of what I understand of XP practices and design patterns from those pages. I bought several books off recommendations on c2, and then didn't read them, but I did read most refactorings and patterns on the site.
     
     I'm sure many of the things I do day-to-day are shaped by how c2 shaped me, it very likely even influenced what courses I took. 2000-2006 were very formative years. To this day when I reason with people I sometimes throw them a c2 link for reference, and people still learn new concepts from it.
     
     Liskov, Demeter, cohesion and coupling ... I may have learned Ruby based on a fascination for Smalltalk gained just by reading c2.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 19:46:30 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney A lot of spare time and immersion, I imagine. :-)
   • sajith (sajith@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2017 13:55:46 UTC sajith

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     @clacke @craigmaloney I just found the redesigned c2 wiki at http://c2.fed.wiki.org/. This way of navigation makes things a lot better for me.

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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2017 16:02:18 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @sajith @craigmaloney Oh! I didn't know that had ported over the content already. I think I had heard some vague plans, but I thought they would do much more with the software first.
     
     I think the UI of the fedwiki is still pretty confusing. c2 made a lot of sense to me.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2017 16:55:50 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     • sajith
     @sajith @craigmaloney Well that wasn't a rabbit hole at all. :)
     
     I'm starting to get the hang of the UI and even like it. I should put up a fedwiki node so I can edit my own user page.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2017 17:28:13 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     @lnxw48a1 I looked around a bit more and now I'm confused again. I seem to never know quite for sure which node is providing the page I'm currently looking at. There are what looks like permalinks, but the don't work as a standalone reference -- the static links and the SPA are not in sync.
     
     Example:
     
     I want to find the page for the Blub Paradox, whatever node it ended up on.
     
     ddg.gg/?q=site:wiki.org+blub-paradox
     
     Alright, looks like it's at it's at an address that pretends to be a static page and redirects to http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/blub-paradox . Fair enough.
     
     Oh hey, there's my name in there. What a remarkable coincidence! Oh no, I wasn't ego surfing at all, why do you ask? I click it. It opens a new tweetdeck column to the right with my user page.
     
     The URL is now http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/blub-paradox/view/claes-wallin . If I go there I see my user page on the right, but the left column is blank. Odd.
     
     There's a permalinky thing that ultimately leads to http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/claes-wallin . Ok, so I guess that's the URL of the page so to speak. But look, there's a later fork of the page that fixed the markup. Click that. Now I'm at http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/claes-wallin/sfw.c2.com/claes-wallin . What's the standalone URL of the right-hand page?
     
     Permalinky goes to http://sfw.c2.com/claes-wallin.html , which redirects to ... http://sfw.c2.com/view/welcome-visitors . Wut.
     
     Did someone on sfw fork the don version and then remove it, but don still has the cached revision?
     
     If I search for "blub" or "claes" on sfw or don, there are no hits.