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1. Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jul-2017 10:20:20 UTC Hallå Kitteh

   • Python
   https://social.heldscal.la/url/635930
   
   Actually more like 2, as Cython isn't a Python implementation. So, they're talking about Tauthon and PyPy.
   
   I'm not so sure about Tauthon -- There hasn't been much activity since the original work, even though a new 3.x version is out which presumably has features that could be backported (pathlib.Path().resolve() now has a strict parameter which, when False, makes it act like normpath() instead of abspath() yaay!).
   
   But then they're also forgetting a newly launched Python implementation that decided to go with 2.x even though 3.x has been out for a decade:
   
   - https://github.com/google/grumpy
   
   Nobody knows how long any Google project is going to be around, but Grumpy is alive and kicking, and I wouldn't be surprised if enough commercial users tie themselves to it to want to keep it alive.
   
   And for some reason they didn't mention:
   
   - http://www.jython.org/
   
   There's a 3.x branch somewhere, but it's not in the official Mercury repo, and even though 2.7.0 was back in 2015, 2.7.1 is under active development with commits almost every week.
   
   !python
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jul-2017 10:26:23 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     Correction: No, the new Path().resolve() doesn't act like normpath(). It still follows symlinks if they exist, it just tolerates non-existing paths. Bummer.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jul-2017 10:41:16 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     https://social.heldscal.la/url/635960
     
     > Based on the rate of uptake for Python 3 libraries and the rate of decline for Python 2-only libraries, the Microsoft team predicted that 3 will overtake 2 by "around May of this year."
     
     That's in number of uploaded package versions each month. Interestingly, py2+3 packages are the largest category of packages, beating both pure py2 (since May 2014) and pure py3 (since forever), and py2+3 is still growing faster than py3 too.
   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Friday, 21-Jul-2017 00:56:29 UTC Hallå Kitteh

     • Vertigo
     @vertigo I think Tauthon is the only one going for that, backporting everything possible from 3. The rest are probably going to be identical to CPython 2.7 forever. But time will tell.