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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:22:27 UTC Danyl Strype

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   @bsmall2 @mjd with due respect to the #Diaspora devs, the only feature it offers over GS is IM (on some pods) and I find it harder to use
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 22:56:46 UTC Danyl Strype
     Am I the only one worried that so many activist organisations have supporters' personal data stored by corporations like NationBuilder?
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 23:37:00 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey I used to be in the #IWW. This was one of the contributing factors in deciding to chuck it in: http://www.iww.org/guides/branch/socialmedia
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 23:41:15 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd in this case people have already chosen to give their data to a corporation and the IWW is trying to subvert this to recruit them
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 23:41:39 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey I emailed the guy responsible for this initiative, asking why he wanted to build the FBI a hit list. He replied we unfortunately had to use these tools "until we seize the means of production". What means of production?! We have them already sitting on our desks!
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 23:44:03 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd what worries me more is organisations placing data people have entrusted to *them* in corporate-hosted platforms like NationBuilder
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 01:16:50 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey I see it more as encouraging #IWW members to join #Facebook et al., and to expose non-members as having activist sympathies. I can't imagine the NSA wouldn't be glad of the assistance.
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 01:17:37 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd that's a risk, but it depends what the #IWW actually use #FarceBook for. If it's only outreach to non-members, what's the problem?
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 01:42:41 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey During WWI IWW members in #US, #AU and elsewhere were rounded up and imprisoned (or worse) in large numbers. If the NSA has Facebook's data on members & sympathisers of activist groups, why wouldn't it be used in some future process of "extreme vetting"?
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 01:46:22 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey "The protests are outta control. Causing huge problems. Bad. Tough measures have been used in the past. I would be willing to use far worse. We're looking into it. We're looking into a lot of things."
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 02:14:14 UTC Matthew Davidson
     @strypey I know Wobblies who do everything (since the 1970s) pseudonymously. Sure, intercept an email and figuring out who you are from that isn't hard, but you need to make some effort and know pretty much who you're looking for.
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 02:18:12 UTC Matthew Davidson

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     @strypey But enough metadata constitutes data, and Facebook et al. have enough metadata. Stick a Facebook widget on your site, and identifying your visitors is just a database query for the NSA.
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   • Matthew Davidson (mjd@microblog.ourcoffs.org.au)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 09:32:28 UTC Matthew Davidson
     @strypey I dunno. I set up a #Facebook account a couple of years ago to check out #Drupal integration and just thought "Is this it? Is this what all the fuss is about?" The vanity value of feeling important enough to be surveilled appears the killer feature.
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:06:18 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd FB feature set is nothing unprecedented but its value is squared by integrating it all under a single login and cubed by network effect
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:10:12 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd I love #GNUSocial for public-facing status updates, but that's all it does, and all it's every likely to do.
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:13:38 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @mjd FB adds (amongst others) private messaging; photo galleries; live chat (w/ voice+video), video hosting, integrated events calendar
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   • Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 04-Mar-2017 07:12:10 UTC Hallå Kitteh

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     @strypey @bsmall2 @mjd Diaspora offers private conversations.
   • Tobias (tobias@social.diekershoff.de)'s status on Saturday, 04-Mar-2017 07:17:24 UTC Tobias

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     @clacke @strypey You should use the platform that suits best your needs and support the devs of that platform to make it a better place to be.
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   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 04-Mar-2017 13:17:10 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tobias @clacke sure, but to do that we need to talk honestly about what needs existing platforms do and don't adequately serve
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