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1. zerohedge (zerohedge@quitter.im)'s status on Friday, 10-Feb-2017 22:42:49 UTC zerohedge
   Finnish Union Blasts "Free Money Experiment" As "Unworkable, Uneconomical And Ultimately Useless" https://quitter.im/url/387878
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 08:42:54 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @zerohedge Of course they would. A Basic Income removes the need for minimal wages, thereby reducing unemployment, undermining trade unions.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 08:49:39 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @zerohedge Why aren't you linking to the original Bloomberg article you're quoting?
     
     http://qttr.at/1ope
   • Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX (se7en@freezepeach.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 08:51:28 UTC Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke Spoken like a true Communist ruser or guppie. http://redpanels.com/245/
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   • Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX (se7en@freezepeach.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 08:56:43 UTC Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke Spoken like either a true Communist ruser or a guppie. http://redpanels.com/75/ http://redpanels.com/160/ http://redpanels.com/112/ http://redpanels.com/111/ http://redpanels.com/96/ http://redpanels.com/51/
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 09:29:03 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX
     @se7en I don't know what those words mean, but your linked comics are fun. BI != minimum wage or welfare though, it has different effects.
   • Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX (se7en@freezepeach.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 09:33:34 UTC Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke Keep lying to yourself and worshiping your communist EU
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   • Tomas SA2TMS (tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 10:58:44 UTC Tomas SA2TMS

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke @zerohedge BI isn't quite as useful unless you couple it with some kind of rent control system as well. Something which is not going to work in Finland I suspect, since most housing is rented from private individuals
     Overall I'm surprised this experiment is happening in Finland of all places, since it's relatively centrist/right wing compared to say Sweden and Norway
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 13:13:24 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Rev. Dustin "Se7en" S., RRCX
     @se7en The main point about BI is that we already have it, but in an inefficient form which creates unemployment through lock-in effects.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 13:15:38 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Tomas SA2TMS
     @tomas @zerohedge It's happening in Finland *because* it is more liberal than socialist. They're approaching it from a liberal perspective.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 13:18:52 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     • Tomas SA2TMS
     @tomas @zerohedge I don't see that rent control is necessary. The people driving prices are middle-class and BI is income-neutral for them.
   • Tomas SA2TMS (tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Sunday, 12-Feb-2017 20:27:52 UTC Tomas SA2TMS

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clackemovedtoheldscalla @zerohedge Fair point. I still suspect there will be an effect of shifting rents such that the cheapest housings suddenly become more expensive. I might sound a bit too negative though; I do like the idea of BI, just that people aren't being sufficiently pessimistic for my taste :]
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