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1. Eugen 🎄 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 00:42:34 UTC Eugen 🎄

   This concerns the entire fediverse: UK wants to force every social network to register with their government, threatening an immense fine otherwise. Now *that* sounds more like censorship https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/827585268391739392

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   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 01:32:50 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @gargron "bill" means it's not *yet* a law, it's still a proposal. But it may become a law because British MPs are crazy
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   • Mike Gerwitz (mikegerwitz@social.mikegerwitz.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 04:57:55 UTC Mike Gerwitz

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     @gargon I didn't look up the referenced list of social media platforms, but it sounds like they maintain a regulated list. They also mention blogs in the definition of a "social media platform". Federated instances seem like a similar case: my instance is for my own personal use, so they'd only be able to censor it in the same way they'd censor my personal blog (well, if I were to live in the UK, that is).
     
     Federated instances that allow users to sign up are likely a different story based on their level of popularity. But censorship would be fruitless: other instances would have the data they're trying to censor. That includes my personal instance. I'm outside the UK's jurisdiction, and even if I weren't, we go back to the blog argument.
     
     I'd say that I'm curious to see how this might be implemented in a federation, but I'm really not---this shouldn't happen at all.
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   • tuttle (tuttle@somsants.net)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 08:38:38 UTC tuttle

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     @Gargron@mastodon.social @mcscx When social networks are illegal we can use something like #twister or https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroMe When p2p communication becomes illegal we can make encrypted connections to forums hidden on some darkish net. When port 80 is the only legal one left, we just won't know when they're about to smash the door down, drag us out onto the street, a shoot us in the back of the head.
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   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 09:23:13 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @gargron I guess the brits in the !fediverse simply will have to #brexit from Great Britain.
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   • VegOs ✔♋ (vegos@loadaverage.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 09:48:35 UTC VegOs ✔♋

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     Then there will ne no instances in the UK. Are there? Does it matter much? Nevertheless, this need resistance to keep other countries from adopting it.
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   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 10:04:32 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @gargron Looks like some Blairite Labour politician is behind this. I might have known.
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Turley
     
     The wording about commercial activity indicates that this is more aimed at the silos than at GS, but if this passed then they could designate GS to be a "regulated social media platform" at leisure and create the new crime of "running an unregulated social media system".
     
     Also, UK politicians are idiotic enough that they would think this was a good idea. Even under Corbyn, the authoritarian nature of the Labour party shouldn't be underestimated. An obvious indicator is that they voted enthusiastically for some of the most invasive spying powers anywhere (the IP act of 2016).
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2017 02:46:40 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @gargron According to replies on that tweet, Private Member's Bills seem to be for posing, rather than something that will get through.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2017 02:46:55 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @gargron Still, that indicates where winds are blowing.
   • Eugen 🎄 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2017 02:47:22 UTC Eugen 🎄

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     @clacke snooper's charter got through. i'm not saying it's gonna pass, but "uk government wants" seems to be correct.

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   • Hector (hector@gs.smuglo.li)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2017 02:50:52 UTC Hector

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     @bob at this point I think people should be seeing Brexit as a good strategy for individuals, instead of the country; that is, people should be getting the fuck out of the UK while they still can.
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2017 13:36:30 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @gargron We know the government wants it, because May loves banning crypto and such, but individual Labour MP no representative of Tory gov.