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1. Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-2016 06:03:22 UTC Annah
   "At 23 minutes, scientist Michael E. Mann, famous for co-discovering the "hockey stick graph" via eigenvector based climate field reconstruction (CFR), recounts how media like the Wall Street Journal demonized him for his research, how he received death threats from unknown sources, how Congress grilled him about whether his scientific methods are credible, and how he even received an envelope in the mail with strange white powder in it."
   
   If being held to the highest scrutiny about a claim isn't to your liking, perhaps you meant to get into religion, rather than science.
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-2016 07:22:10 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah I'm pretty sure death threats and possibly-anthrax are not part of acceptable "scrutiny".
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-2016 07:22:59 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah Getting your methods questioned, sure. If it's by people who understand methods.
   • Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-2016 07:24:34 UTC Annah

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke No, they are not, but the conflation of death threats with the people whom questioned his methods are disingenuous.  Not every person whom questioned him sent him that mail, but the video the article I'm quoting and commenting on makes a pretty clear implication that if you questioned him you must have been one of "those" people.
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 02:09:07 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah I don't really know the guy and I haven't seen the video, but if I were him it'd be those rare things that I would remember.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 02:12:28 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah Any criticism of climate research I have seen, has seemed to me as "lala, I cannot hear you" by myopic corporatist people.
   • Annah (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 02:12:53 UTC Annah

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke Perhaps you should actually start looking outside your own circle then.
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 03:11:19 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah There are so many people that would benefit from disproving ACC, but somehow all they can find are easily debunkable cranks.
   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 03:13:22 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     @maiyannah If people are worried we'll waste resources on fixing the wrong problem, they should take a Lomborg approach, which I appreciate.
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 09:39:34 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     I don't count letters with white powder in the mail as "scrutiny".
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 11:34:23 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @maiyannah I have not so much made up my mind as still waiting for 30 years for solid counter-evidence. This is not new stuff.
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Saturday, 05-Nov-2016 12:01:55 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)
     @clacke That post was extremely fun to read because ACC is the local "Academic Computer Club".