@mcnees it'd be a bit strange if there were new physics at ~1 TeV that LHC hasn't been able to sniff out at an order of magnitude higher CoM energy, but OTOH the Tevatron was definitely making Higgs, we just couldn't see them...

It might be a magnet-design bias, but I have some serious reservations about plans to push to higher energies just to see what's out there (i.e. FCC-hh), it feels like we should at least have an expected science case.

Maybe HL-LHC could find something, though?

@mcnees a sufficiently specific type of Guy that it cannot be hidden

@mcnees my favorite example of a scientific discovery that required some humility:

"When I began my physical studies and sought advice from my venerable teacher Philipp von Jolly...he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed, almost fully matured science...fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries."

Lucky thing that he wasn't dissuaded by von Jolly's picture of "dead end" physics!

@mcnees fun coincidence! In his classic game postmortem given at GDC 2017, Don Rawitsch talks about how the game the three teachers (who were roommates at the time!) came up with was so popular that there was a long line outside the classroom to play the game on the only available teletype. Plausible indeed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdGNFhKhoKY

@mcnees to wit:

"…my venerable teacher Philipp von Jolly...portrayed to me physics as a highly developed, almost fully matured science...Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries."

Max Planck, 1924