Notices tagged with p2p
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LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jan-2023 16:44:15 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} @fu I have not heard of #Status.im before. From a quick look, it reminds me of #Nostr, but #P2P instead of using relay servers.
(Last time I looked, Nostr did not have a decent #Android client, but I hear that the Damus #IOS client is great.) -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 04:08:02 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} @clacke I initially saw "Tox" and thought about the #P2P messenger called #Tox. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jan-2022 21:25:46 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} > We don't want "Twitter, but with my people in charge of the ban button", or even "Twitter, but with impartial benevolent people in charge of the ban button"
I think a lot of people want exactly that. But if they think about it, there are always some points where they disagree with most of "their people" and they'd rather have those decisions made differently.
It is a toss-up whether many people would be willing to leave an instance ... or self-host over this.
> we want a solution where no one and everyone has a ban button.
I think eventually, some #P2P elements (maybe like #Twister) will have to be added. Maybe servers / instances will turn into trusted relays for a P2P network. Or maybe P2P will be an add-on atop the existing federated networks. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jan-2021 01:49:34 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} From a few years back, there is a #P2P #socnet application called #Twister.
I haven’t used it in years, but I do plan to revisit Twister (and #BitMessage) to see what has changed. No timeline for doing so. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Jan-2021 19:23:35 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} I saw someone mention #Bitmessage. “Bitmessage”:{https://wiki.bitmessage.org/Main_Page} was interestingly different when I tried some years ago. I should take another look. It seemed to use a lot of bandwidth and CPU to sustain the network, even when it was days or weeks between actual incoming messages for me / outgoing messages from me.
Also: #Twister. “Twister”:{http://twister.net.co/} is a #P2P microblogging tool. Twister seemed a little complicated to get running, but once I did, it was cool.
Bitmessage seemed to be:
1. Mostly for person-to-person messages, but I don’t recall reading its security & privacy specifics.
2. A little tech-specific, as in not appealing to people who are not into the technology involved
3. Slow to develop ... I’m sure the note about using the updated patched version has been on the website for years.
Twister seemed to be:
1. Mostly for public microblog type posts.
2. I wasn’t really sure whether “following” did much.
3. At the time, it felt like things were actively moving, but I do remember a months-long thread about censorship resistance features that resulted in some contacts abandoning it. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 05-Dec-2020 19:14:33 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} #Beaker_Browser, a #P2P enabled web browser, has reached version 1.0.0. It uses the HyperCore protocol (formerly called DAT) to enable users to host websites in their browsers, which other Beaker users can access.
https://beakerbrowser.com/ -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Oct-2020 16:35:47 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} I checked #Multiverse on #Android. Same issue. Cannot maintain a connection to a pub, so everything I can see is weeks old.
I'll wait another week or two before I completely abandon it.
I should write up my experience with the #SSB network. I'd heard so much about this wonder of #DCO (disconnected operation) and #P2P (peer-to-peer) that I think my expectations were too high. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jul-2020 23:13:44 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} I've been using #Manyverse ( #SSB software client ) on #iOS and #Android a little over the past couple of months. The only way to 'meet' people and make contacts is to join a pub.
Copying a 'pub' invite and pasting it into the client is not easy. It took several tries on the Apple iPad, and was only possible by learning to trick the text selection function. On Android, there are some characters in the pub invite that can only be selected if you select all (grabs way more than what you want, leaving you to edit after pasting). I eventually resorted to copying the portion that selected easily, and manually entering the rest.
Each device / installation gets its own individual identity hash. In your profile, you can attach a friendly name, which is displayed to others instead of the full identity hash. Don't try restoring a hash from one device onto another, because the #Secure_Scuttlebutt network seems to deliver everything to the first device and leave the second one alone.
There seems to be a smallish set of users, many of whom are building SSB software, hosting pubs, and building similar #peer-to-peer ( #p2p ) networks.
I am nowhere near an expert with it, and I generally only open the client about once per week. It usually takes a while to update, so at first, the old posts from a week before are all you see. -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2020 04:00:37 UTC Strypey This post on the #Jami blog highlights some of the ways users have to manage #P2P apps differently from those that depend on servers:
https://jami.net/the-jami-quirks/ -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-May-2019 17:23:06 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} @moonman @lain
My only exposure to #Gab is the people who fled and came to the #Fediverse, so I'm not a fan in any way. They don't seem to get that the sh*t they post is the reason that their server keeps losing its hosting, and that no instance admin with any sense wants their other users left "homeless" when Gab-posters' cause de-hosting.
But seriously, how have they not looked at building their own #P2P network instead of crawling from hoster to hoster and from one type of server software to another? If they are "persecuted" and driven off again and again, the last thing they should be thinking is "we'll fork #Mastodon and try to hide our server in the Fediverse". -
Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 21-Feb-2019 04:09:20 UTC Santa Claes 🇸🇪🇭🇰🎅 infosec.exchange/@RangerMauve/… ♲ @RangerMauve@infosec.exchange: Wrote up a post about how #Mastodon and the #Fediverse could lead people to the #P2P Web.
rangermauve.hashbase.io/posts/…
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LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Dec-2018 00:49:39 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} Certain "folk" came to the #fediverse after their centralized home was dropped again by its hoster because it allowed the kind of content they post. Then they get angry about being kicked off of various instances here. Well instead of expecting someone else to take the risk, they should host their own #federated #socnet instance or use a #P2P platform. -
🆁🅴🅳🅰🅲🆃🅴🅳 (xj@b.9chan.lol)'s status on Monday, 28-May-2018 17:52:17 UTC 🆁🅴🅳🅰🅲🆃🅴🅳 @moonman seriously. #p2p is a lot worse. right now, you can opt-out of being tracked by using services that you host yourself or that you trust not to track you. the way p2p world is currecntly shaping up, everything you do is a matter of public record.
a lot of people in the "redecentralize" movement are super into transparency to avoid having their brand sullied by pirates. "you can't hide anything so only legit data is going to be transmitted over our network", they say. a valid point i suppose, but that sentiment strongly echoes "you don't need privacy if you have nothing to hide".
of course, strong privacy will enable piracy. there is nothing we can do about that because you can't have selective privacy. the question is, what do we really care about? do we care about users, privacy, and freedom or getting patted on the head by the powers that be? -
SoapDog (soapdog@toot.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Apr-2018 15:32:09 UTC SoapDog Hey #decentralization oriented people, there is a #DAT add-on for #Firefox 🔥 :firefox: that enables you to check content powered by @dat_project on your favorite independent browser, check out:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dat-p2p-protocol/
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Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-2018 13:42:09 UTC Hallå Kitteh @ebel @pettter @rysiek @herrabre @bjoern
> Just as Systematic Colonization was developed to establish the capitalist mode of production in the colonies, anti-disintermediation was [developed] to colonize cyberspace. The basic strategy of anti-disintermediation was formulated by economists like Carl Shapiro and Hal R. Varian. Their influential book Information Rules encourages platform owners to pursue "lock-in." As Varian explains, "Since information technology products work in systems, switching any single product can cost users dearly. The lock-in that results from such switching costs confers a huge competitive advantage to firms that manage their installed base of customers effectively."
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> Central to the counter-anti-disintermediationist design is the End-to-End principle: platforms must not depend on servers and admins, even when cooperatively run, but must, to the greatest degree possible, run on the computers of the platform’s users. The computational capacity and network access of the users’ own computers must collectively make up the resources of the platform, such that, on average, each new user adds net resources to the platform. By keeping the computational capacity in the hands of the users, we prevent the communication platform from becoming capital, and we prevent the users from being instrumentalized as an audience commodity.
TL;DR: Kill the server-web as the backbone of personal communications.
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worst girl 🏴☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Mar-2018 23:03:33 UTC worst girl 🏴☠️ honestly, the most interesting #p2p system right now is secure scuttlebutt. the only authority is *you*.
you decide who to replicate.
you are your own CA.
you pick what network(s) you want to using public or private root keys that anyone can generate. -
worst girl 🏴☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2018 05:51:23 UTC worst girl 🏴☠️ @msh @JordiGH federation is weakness
bow to your #p2p gods
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Nicole (funbreaker@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2017 19:07:56 UTC Nicole " #P2P will save us if Net Neutra-"
NO. Many ISPs already block p2p protocol traffic and #Tor . Blockchain probably won't save you. If you have the money and resources, establish your own ISP, preferably a #coop. Otherwise, CALL CONGRESS. They might be able to invoke the Congressional Review Act.
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worst girl 🏴☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2017 17:04:22 UTC worst girl 🏴☠️ @excelereight #p2p has a privacy problem, but ultimately we need a #p2p application platform that doesn't lend itself to centralization at all because a federation is only one step away from a centralized system
see email
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worst girl 🏴☠️ (xj9@sunshinegardens.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2017 00:57:55 UTC worst girl 🏴☠️ demonic cyber bitch def better at everything than you very rude i make #p2p shit and dumb homebrew mobile devices way too sexual anti-political correctness grumpy sw dev i hate you probably but i'm sickly sweet to the people i like
i post the #tech stuff on @r14c
#block me and fuck off why are you even reading this?