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Updates tagged with activitypub on Chirp!!evan: I'm interested in hearing from #ActivityPub developers who've successfully mapped #OpenGraph properties from <meta> tags in Web pages onto the `Page` type and its properties in AS2.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/351365
evan's status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 05:44:35 UTC<p>I'm interested in hearing from <a href="https://cosocial.ca/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> developers who've successfully mapped <a href="https://cosocial.ca/tags/OpenGraph" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OpenGraph</a> properties from <meta> tags in Web pages onto the `Page` type and its properties in AS2.</p>2023-12-28T05:44:35+00:00Evan Prodromoulnxw48a1: https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub [www theverge com] The Verge article extolling the #Fediverse. I personally think the writer has the wrong point. #Facebook isn't good. Its attraction is "everybody I know is on Facebook" and not any of its half-baked features. Therefore, multiprotocol / multi-network federated social is important to dethroning #corpocentric #socnets like XTwitter ( #x.com / #twitter ) and Meta's Facebook & #Instagram. We need bridges to connect #Nostr, the #OStatus and #ActivityPub fediverses, #Diaspora, #Farcaster, #Bluesky's #ATProto, etc. Or we need instances that speak all of the above protocols / languages. I feel this writer's exuberence will turn out to be fantasy, mostly because of misunderstanding what keeps people in the walled gardens and what it will take to free them.
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lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 21-Dec-2023 03:09:16 UTC<a href="https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub" title="https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment">https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub</a> [www theverge com] <br /> <br /> The Verge article extolling the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse.</a></span> I personally think the writer has the wrong point. #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/facebook" rel="tag">Facebook</a></span> isn't good. Its attraction is "everybody I know is on Facebook" and not any of its half-baked features. Therefore, multiprotocol / multi-network federated social is important to dethroning #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/corpocentric" rel="tag">corpocentric</a></span> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/socnets" rel="tag">socnets</a></span> like XTwitter ( #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/xcom" rel="tag">x.com</a></span> / #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twitter" rel="tag">twitter</a></span> ) and Meta's Facebook & #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/instagram" rel="tag">Instagram.</a></span> <br /> <br /> We need bridges to connect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/nostr" rel="tag">Nostr</a></span>, the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> and #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> fediverses, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/diaspora" rel="tag">Diaspora</a></span>, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/farcaster" rel="tag">Farcaster</a></span>, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/bluesky" rel="tag">Bluesky</a></span>'s #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/atproto" rel="tag">ATProto</a></span>, etc. Or we need instances that speak all of the above protocols / languages. <br /> <br /> I feel this writer's exuberence will turn out to be fantasy, mostly because of misunderstanding what keeps people in the walled gardens and what it will take to free them.2023-12-21T03:09:16+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}mike: The network effect for #ActivityPub is gaining some serious momentum right now. As more services adopt the protocol, more people, more communities and more content are added to the network making it increasingly more valuable for everyone. This will only accelerate in the coming months as Threads, Wordpress, Tumblr, Flipboard and others federate.We're still in early innings but there's no way to put this genie back in the bottle. The open social Web / the #Fediverse is going to be huge.
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mike's status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 11:14:08 UTC<p>The network effect for <a href="https://flipboard.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> is gaining some serious momentum right now. As more services adopt the protocol, more people, more communities and more content are added to the network making it increasingly more valuable for everyone. This will only accelerate in the coming months as Threads, Wordpress, Tumblr, Flipboard and others federate.</p><p>We're still in early innings but there's no way to put this genie back in the bottle. The open social Web / the <a href="https://flipboard.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediverse</a> is going to be huge.</p>2023-12-15T11:14:08+00:00Mike McCuepluralistic: End-to-End does not present this kind of barrier. The default state for a social media platform is to deliver posts from accounts to their followers. Interfering with End-To-End costs *more* than delivering the messages users want to have. Likewise, a Right To Exit is a solved problem, built into the open Mastodon protocol, itself built atop the open #ActivityPub standard.It's not just Twitter. Every platform is consuming itself in an orgy of enshittification. 47/
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pluralistic's status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 10:24:34 UTC<p>End-to-End does not present this kind of barrier. The default state for a social media platform is to deliver posts from accounts to their followers. Interfering with End-To-End costs *more* than delivering the messages users want to have. Likewise, a Right To Exit is a solved problem, built into the open Mastodon protocol, itself built atop the open <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> standard.</p><p>It's not just Twitter. Every platform is consuming itself in an orgy of enshittification. </p><p>47/</p>2023-10-15T10:24:34+00:00Cory Doctorow's linkblogsteve: Have you ever wondered how #ActivityPub got its name and what other names were considered? Here's the transcript from the W3C meeting where the naming happened. https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-01-12-minutes
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steve's status on Tuesday, 26-Sep-2023 12:05:24 UTC<p>Have you ever wondered how <a href="https://social.technoetic.com/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> got its name and what other names were considered? Here's the transcript from the W3C meeting where the naming happened. <a href="https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-01-12-minutes" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-01-12-minutes</a></p>2023-09-26T12:05:24+00:00Steve Bateevan: I've signed an agreement to write a book about #ActivityPub for O'Reilly Media. The book should be available sometime after summer 2024.Blog post here: https://evanp.me/2023/09/07/activitypub-book-for-oreilly-media/
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evan's status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 15:25:09 UTC<p>I've signed an agreement to write a book about <a href="https://cosocial.ca/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> for O'Reilly Media. The book should be available sometime after summer 2024.</p><p>Blog post here: <a href="https://evanp.me/2023/09/07/activitypub-book-for-oreilly-media/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://evanp.me/2023/09/07/activitypub-book-for-oreilly-media/</a></p>2023-09-07T15:25:09+00:00Evan Prodromoulnxw48a1: The Iris #Nostr client on #Android now has a "block and mute" function, so I've started using that against the #spambots. Nostr has some great ideas that are way beyond what either #OStatus or #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse are doing, but the spam and the fact that there's a really big #Bitcoin "Maxi" faction there are chasing regular people away.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/342257
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 17:47:16 UTCThe Iris #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/nostr" rel="tag">Nostr</a></span> client on #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/android" rel="tag">Android</a></span> now has a "block and mute" function, so I've started using that against the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/spambots" rel="tag">spambots.</a></span> <br /><br /> Nostr has some great ideas that are way beyond what either #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> or #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> branches of the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> are doing, but the spam and the fact that there's a really big #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/bitcoin" rel="tag">Bitcoin</a></span> "Maxi" faction there are chasing regular people away.2023-07-08T17:47:16+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142 #Meta / #Facebook is building a #Twitter clone under their #Instagram brand. Apparently, there's discussion of various #ActivityPub #Fediverse projects' lead developers signing an NDA and having discussions with them. The participants appear to be deleting evidence. I'm not spinning a conspiracy theory. I just don't think Gargron or Dansup have any idea what kinds of restrictions an NDA can contain. They risk long-term damage to their projects and some impact on their careers.
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lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 18-Jun-2023 20:08:53 UTC<a href="https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142" title="https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment">https://beach.city/@vantablack/110563155848847142</a> <br /> <br /> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/meta" rel="tag">Meta</a></span> / #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/facebook" rel="tag">Facebook</a></span> is building a #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twitter" rel="tag">Twitter</a></span> clone under their #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/instagram" rel="tag">Instagram</a></span> brand. Apparently, there's discussion of various #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> projects' lead developers signing an NDA and having discussions with them. <br /> <br /> The participants appear to be deleting evidence. <br /> <br /> I'm not spinning a conspiracy theory. I just don't think Gargron or Dansup have any idea what kinds of restrictions an NDA can contain. They risk long-term damage to their projects and some impact on their careers.2023-06-18T20:08:53+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: @fu I think he's aware of the #Nostr - #ActivityPub bridge ... though #SPC blocks it for good reasons. He's a contact of mine on Nostr.
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lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:37:25 UTC@<a href="https://libranet.de/profile/fu" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Ji Fu">fu</a> I think he's aware of the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/nostr" rel="tag">Nostr</a></span> - #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> bridge ... though #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/spc" rel="tag">SPC</a></span> blocks it for good reasons. <br /><br /> He's a contact of mine on Nostr.2023-05-10T17:37:25+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: I did a #Mumble voice chat this evening with @a@pl.nulled.red. However, the connection here is exceptionally slow, so my client's connection kept timing out every few minutes. This happened on two different servers. Finally, we ended the voicechat. Afterwards, I did a test connection to the #Federati #Murmur / Mumble server. It disconnected once over a ten minute test. So if I do another #Office_Hours voicechat soon, understand that my connection may be interrupted. Anyway, I got some great ideas. A has been trying to document #ActivityPub itself (S2S and C2S designs), various implementations (including the Mastodon API that is often used instead of AP_C2S), as well as other #federated communication protocols such as #Matrix and #XMPP. They suggested that "a better Matrix" might be able to be built atop AP. I used to watch their game streams years ago, but the voice sounded different over Mumble. I'm told that getting a better microphone made the difference.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/338990
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:19:58 UTCI did a #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/mumble" rel="tag">Mumble</a></span> voice chat this evening with @a@pl.nulled.red. However, the connection here is exceptionally slow, so my client's connection kept timing out every few minutes. This happened on two different servers. Finally, we ended the voicechat. <br /><br /> Afterwards, I did a test connection to the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/federati" rel="tag">Federati</a></span> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/murmur" rel="tag">Murmur</a></span> / Mumble server. It disconnected once over a ten minute test. <br /><br /> So if I do another #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/officehours" rel="tag">Office_Hours</a></span> voicechat soon, understand that my connection may be interrupted. <br /><br /> Anyway, I got some great ideas. A has been trying to document #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> itself (S2S and C2S designs), various implementations (including the Mastodon API that is often used instead of AP_C2S), as well as other #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/federated" rel="tag">federated</a></span> communication protocols such as #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/matrix" rel="tag">Matrix</a></span> and #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/xmpp" rel="tag">XMPP.</a></span> They suggested that "a better Matrix" might be able to be built atop AP. <br /><br /> I used to watch their game streams years ago, but the voice sounded different over Mumble. I'm told that getting a better microphone made the difference.2023-04-12T05:19:58+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}matt: I have no interest in gatekeeping the #fediverse, preserving the "old" culture here, etc. And I think bringing people together to talk about #ActivityPub is basically always great.But charging for the online unconference #fediforum that's supposed to bring all implementers and users together just feels like a great way to... gatekeep the fediverse 🙃Just gives me an icky feeling.
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matt's status on Sunday, 02-Apr-2023 09:57:12 UTC<p>I have no interest in gatekeeping the <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#fediverse</a>, preserving the "old" culture here, etc. And I think bringing people together to talk about <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> is basically always great.</p><p>But charging for the online unconference <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/fediforum" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#fediforum</a> that's supposed to bring all implementers and users together just feels like a great way to... gatekeep the fediverse 🙃</p><p>Just gives me an icky feeling.</p>2023-04-02T09:57:12+00:00MattJ12t: If you are an implementor of #ActivityPub, or any related social web apps or protocols, please try to come to the meeting on the future of ActivityPub standardization and related subjects next Wednesday, March 29. It's on-line and hosted by #FediForum and the W3C's Social Web Interest Community Group.We want to hear from you! Standards should not be created in a vacuum. If you have tried to use ActivityPub (successfully or not!), tell us what you need! And perhaps get involved making it so.
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J12t's status on Sunday, 02-Apr-2023 08:58:52 UTC<p>If you are an implementor of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a>, or any related social web apps or protocols, please try to come to the meeting on the future of ActivityPub standardization and related subjects next Wednesday, March 29. It's on-line and hosted by <a href="https://social.coop/tags/FediForum" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#FediForum</a> and the W3C's Social Web Interest Community Group.</p><p>We want to hear from you! Standards should not be created in a vacuum. If you have tried to use ActivityPub (successfully or not!), tell us what you need! And perhaps get involved making it so.</p>2023-04-02T08:58:52+00:00Johannes ErnstJ12t: We had 46 people in the session on the future of #ActivityPub and related, hosted by #Fediforum and the #W3C Social Web Incubator Community Group (SWICG). I'm told that was the largest SWICG meeting in history.And so many implementors were there and spoke up what they need! There's real momemtum./cc @fediforum
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J12t's status on Sunday, 02-Apr-2023 08:56:00 UTC<p>We had 46 people in the session on the future of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> and related, hosted by <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Fediforum" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediforum</a> and the <a href="https://social.coop/tags/W3C" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#W3C</a> Social Web Incubator Community Group (SWICG). I'm told that was the largest SWICG meeting in history.</p><p>And so many implementors were there and spoke up what they need! There's real momemtum.</p><p>/cc <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/fediforum" class="u-url mention">@fediforum</a></p>2023-04-02T08:56:00+00:00Johannes ErnstJ12t: #ActivityPub, the standard that all of the #Fediverse depends on, and without which you couldn't use the app through which you read this, was created over 5 years ago.Since, the W3C standards group that produced it disbanded and the standard has been essentially unmaintained.Which is ... not good, given the recent rapid growth of the Fediverse and the many new apps and websites trying to support it.
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J12t's status on Sunday, 02-Apr-2023 08:47:39 UTC<p><a href="https://social.coop/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a>, the standard that all of the <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediverse</a> depends on, and without which you couldn't use the app through which you read this, was created over 5 years ago.</p><p>Since, the W3C standards group that produced it disbanded and the standard has been essentially unmaintained.</p><p>Which is ... not good, given the recent rapid growth of the Fediverse and the many new apps and websites trying to support it.</p>2023-04-02T08:47:39+00:00Johannes Ernstlnxw48a1: Mostr: a bridge between #Nostr and the ( #ActivityPub ) #Fediverse https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3 Blog post: https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/ Source: https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr
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lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 02:12:32 UTCMostr: a bridge between #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/nostr" rel="tag">Nostr</a></span> and the ( #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> ) #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> <a href="https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3" title="https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3" rel="nofollow">https://gleasonator.com/objects/e6e981ad-5e27-4fbe-bb35-c8a53fbdcab3</a> <br /><br /> Blog post: <a href="https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/" title="https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment">https://soapbox.pub/blog/mostr-fediverse-nostr-bridge/</a> <br /><br /> Source: <a href="https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr" title="https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment">https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/mostr</a>2023-02-27T02:12:32+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
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lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 02:20:57 UTC<a href="https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a" title="https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a" rel="nofollow noreferrer" class="attachment thumbnail">https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a</a> <br /><br /> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/medium" rel="tag">Medium</a></span> link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article.<br /><br /> "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight"<br /><br /> > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal.<br /><br /> No, it isn't meant to be a #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twitter" rel="tag">Twitter</a></span> replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter.<br /><br /> And the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> networks are much more than just #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/mastodon" rel="tag">Mastodon.</a></span> Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it.<br /><br /> > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! <br /><br /> Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use.<br /><br /> > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story.<br /><br /> Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/corpocentric" rel="tag">corpocentric</a></span> ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/federated" rel="tag">federated</a></span> or #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/peertopeer" rel="tag">peer-to-peer</a></span> approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> ( with #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> and #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/diaspora" rel="tag">Diaspora</a></span> ) or #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/bluesky" rel="tag">Bluesky</a></span>, or #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twister" rel="tag">Twister</a></span>, or #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/nostr" rel="tag">NOSTR</a></span>, the eventual future of #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/socnets" rel="tag">socnets</a></span> is #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/decentralized" rel="tag">decentralized</a></span>, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance.<br /><br /> 1/22022-12-29T02:20:57+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}bobjonkman: @clacke Our #KWNPSA user group chatted with the #GetTogether developer a few months ago. He said demand for self-hosted G2G instances was minimal, and event interchange even more minimal. So #ActivityPub support on G2G has stalled, and he considers G2G more or less stable and mature.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/333197
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 29-Nov-2022 17:12:46 UTC@<a href="https://libranet.de/profile/clacke" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">clacke</a> Our #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/kwnpsa" rel="tag">KWNPSA</a></span> user group chatted with the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gettogether" rel="tag">GetTogether</a></span> developer a few months ago. He said demand for self-hosted G2G instances was minimal, and event interchange even more minimal. So #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> support on G2G has stalled, and he considers G2G more or less stable and mature.2022-11-29T17:12:46+00:00Bob Jonkmantinyrabbit: Out of curiousity more than looking for another project: what #ActivityPub servers exist that are suitable to run on a Raspberry Pi older than the 4?
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/329038
tinyrabbit's status on Monday, 06-Jun-2022 16:51:20 UTC<p>Out of curiousity more than looking for another project: what <a href="https://floss.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> servers exist that are suitable to run on a Raspberry Pi older than the 4?</p>2022-06-06T16:51:20+00:00tinyrabbitGrassrootsReview: @OpenScienceFeed They call it #ActivityStream|s and Linked Data Notifications. I call it #ActivityPub. This 4 million Dollar may be the biggest public investment in AP yet.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/328243
GrassrootsReview's status on Sunday, 29-May-2022 19:58:33 UTC<p><a href="https://fediscience.org/@OpenScienceFeed" class="u-url mention">@OpenScienceFeed</a> They call it <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/ActivityStream" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityStream</a>|s and Linked Data Notifications. I call it <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a>. This 4 million Dollar may be the biggest public investment in AP yet.</p>2022-05-29T19:58:33+00:00Grassroots Review Journalshumanetech: @GrassrootsReview @OpenScienceFeed One is not the same as the other. Are there plans to indeed consider #ActivityPub here? I mean there's huge potential to bring such new domain / app type to the #Fediverse or interconnectivity AS/LDN vs. AS/AP are different approaches.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/328244
humanetech's status on Sunday, 29-May-2022 19:58:26 UTC<p><a href="https://fediscience.org/@GrassrootsReview" class="u-url mention">@GrassrootsReview</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/@OpenScienceFeed" class="u-url mention">@OpenScienceFeed</a> </p><p>One is not the same as the other. Are there plans to indeed consider <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> here? I mean there's huge potential to bring such new domain / app type to the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediverse</a> or interconnectivity AS/LDN vs. AS/AP are different approaches.</p>2022-05-29T19:58:26+00:00Humane Tech Nowhumanetech: @cy that is cynical take. Maybe warranted for some W3C open standards, idk, but the authors of #ActivityPub are fedizens that have spent blood, sweat and tears and countless hours volunteering for the community and the commons to help make the #Fediverse what it currently is.It is now time for others to take over and bring the fedi to a higher level, building on what was established before. This is a problem as most people work on their own apps, less on making the ecosystem more accessible.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/327394
humanetech's status on Sunday, 22-May-2022 09:16:39 UTC<p><a href="https://mstdn.io/@cy" class="u-url mention">@cy</a> that is cynical take. Maybe warranted for some W3C open standards, idk, but the authors of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> are fedizens that have spent blood, sweat and tears and countless hours volunteering for the community and the commons to help make the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediverse</a> what it currently is.</p><p>It is now time for others to take over and bring the fedi to a higher level, building on what was established before. This is a problem as most people work on their own apps, less on making the ecosystem more accessible.</p>2022-05-22T09:16:39+00:00Humane Tech Nowcy: The #ActivityPub standard reads like someone who just discovered what "the programming" is. > For federated servers performing delivery to a third party server, delivery SHOULD be performed asynchronously Why is that in the specification? Just because some starry eyed n00b heard of "asynchronous," and was just specifying whatever they could think of that sounded like it'd be super cool, even though it has nothing to do with the protocol.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/327386
cy's status on Sunday, 22-May-2022 08:05:19 UTC<p>The <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> standard reads like someone who just discovered what "the programming" is.<br />> For federated servers performing delivery to a third party server, delivery SHOULD be performed asynchronously<br />Why is that in the specification? Just because some starry eyed n00b heard of "asynchronous," and was just specifying whatever they could think of that sounded like it'd be super cool, even though it has nothing to do with the protocol.</p>2022-05-22T08:05:19+00:00Cydansup: I've been pretty vocal about using my following and resources to help spread awareness of new projects and developers, I know what it's like to start from nothing and "compete" with mastodon, peertube, pleroma, etc.What I don't get is how distant projects are from each other, I think the larger projects should make more of an effort to help out smaller projects.We are not competing with each other, we're all in this together! 💪 #fediverse #activitypub
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/325483
dansup's status on Saturday, 07-May-2022 13:06:30 UTC<p>I've been pretty vocal about using my following and resources to help spread awareness of new projects and developers, I know what it's like to start from nothing and "compete" with mastodon, peertube, pleroma, etc.</p><p>What I don't get is how distant projects are from each other, I think the larger projects should make more of an effort to help out smaller projects.</p><p>We are not competing with each other, we're all in this together! 💪 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#activitypub</a></p>2022-05-07T13:06:30+00:00dansupukr: Possibility of running a single user #mastodon on my own domain? Any compatible #ActivityPub implementations?
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/323371
ukr's status on Sunday, 17-Apr-2022 07:48:39 UTC<p>Possibility of running a single user <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#mastodon</a> on my own domain? Any compatible <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> implementations?</p>2022-04-17T07:48:39+00:00kvnweirdwriter: If any developers can assist, the DreamWith community wants #ActivityPub support https://github.com/dreamwidth/dw-free/issues/2337#issuecomment-1080267848 #Fediverse
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/320484
weirdwriter's status on Monday, 28-Mar-2022 13:33:08 UTC<p>If any developers can assist, the DreamWith community wants <a href="https://writeout.ink/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> support <a href="https://github.com/dreamwidth/dw-free/issues/2337#issuecomment-1080267848" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://github.com/dreamwidth/dw-free/issues/2337#issuecomment-1080267848</a> <a href="https://writeout.ink/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Fediverse</a></p>2022-03-28T13:33:08+00:00Robert Kingettcrazypedia: ok, if i were to set up containerized #ActivityPub #Hometown instances, where would you recommend i do so that has the easiest setup and management interface, as well as general security and backups managed by the hosting provider? Price will factor in too.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/320044
crazypedia's status on Friday, 25-Mar-2022 04:56:18 UTC<p>ok, if i were to set up containerized <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/Hometown" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Hometown</a> instances, where would you recommend i do so that has the easiest setup and management interface, as well as general security and backups managed by the hosting provider? Price will factor in too.</p>2022-03-25T04:56:18+00:00Crazypedia 🇺🇦humanetech: @datatitian thank you, that is good to know. Need to to update @activitypub group then. And I will also edit the #ActivityPub application watchlist to reflect this change.https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/watchlist-for-activitypub-apps
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/315684
humanetech's status on Friday, 25-Feb-2022 11:15:36 UTC<p><a href="https://social.coop/@datatitian" class="u-url mention">@datatitian</a> thank you, that is good to know. Need to to update @activitypub group then. And I will also edit the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> application watchlist to reflect this change.</p><p><a href="https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/watchlist-for-activitypub-apps" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/watchlist-for-activitypub-apps</a></p>2022-02-25T11:15:36+00:00Humane Tech Nowartfulsodger: I enabled the #ActivityPub integration in my blog using the #WordPress plugin. I’m happy that it was simple to set up and that it works well 🎉
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/315399
artfulsodger's status on Thursday, 24-Feb-2022 06:24:09 UTC<p>I enabled the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a> integration in my blog using the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/WordPress" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#WordPress</a> plugin. I’m happy that it was simple to set up and that it works well 🎉</p>2022-02-24T06:24:09+00:00A S :endeavourOS: :kubuntu:dansup: Oh my god, this is so exciting!! Congrats to @Mastodon and I look forward to #groups! #mastodon #nlnet #activitypub
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/312396
dansup's status on Tuesday, 01-Feb-2022 03:49:44 UTC<p>Oh my god, this is so exciting!! Congrats to <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon" class="u-url mention">@Mastodon</a> and I look forward to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/groups" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#groups</a>! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#mastodon</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/nlnet" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#nlnet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#activitypub</a></p>2022-02-01T03:49:44+00:00dansupkeelancook: I've started looking into #Friendica a bit. Would love to hear some other opinions about it. Do any of my friends on here use it? I like the idea of having #rss feeds alongside #ActivityPub. I might like a mashup of my social and my feedreader.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/310737
keelancook's status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-2022 13:05:53 UTCI've started looking into <a class="hashtag" href="https://thewell.ml/tag/friendica" rel="tag">#Friendica</a> a bit. Would love to hear some other opinions about it. Do any of my friends on here use it?<br /><br />I like the idea of having <a class="hashtag" href="https://thewell.ml/tag/rss" rel="tag">#rss</a> feeds alongside <a class="hashtag" href="https://thewell.ml/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">#ActivityPub</a>. I might like a mashup of my social and my feedreader.2022-01-19T13:05:53+00:00Keelanwitchescauldron: #OGB The need for “governance” came out of a practical problem, the #activitypub community is made up of “cats” you know the slogan “herding cats” we were doing seminars outreach to powerful EU Eurocrats on why they should be interested in #activertypub and interesting they really are interested. We had no voice, only “cats” with everyone pushing their own tiny projects, it was a lot of work and stress, but we got the presentations done.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/308996
witchescauldron's status on Sunday, 09-Jan-2022 09:03:10 UTC<p><a href="https://activism.openworlds.info/tags/OGB" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OGB</a> The need for “governance” came out of a practical problem, the <a href="https://activism.openworlds.info/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#activitypub</a> community is made up of “cats” you know the slogan “herding cats” we were doing seminars outreach to powerful EU Eurocrats on why they should be interested in <a href="https://activism.openworlds.info/tags/activertypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#activertypub</a> and interesting they really are interested. We had no voice, only “cats” with everyone pushing their own tiny projects, it was a lot of work and stress, but we got the presentations done.</p>2022-01-09T09:03:10+00:00Adminbobjonkman: Some days I'm glad my instance of #GNUsocial doesn't support #ActivityPub and isolates me from the idiocy on Mastodon of which I already get plenty from #Birdsite.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/306827
bobjonkman's status on Friday, 17-Dec-2021 04:59:13 UTCSome days I'm glad my instance of #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> doesn't support #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> and isolates me from the idiocy on Mastodon of which I already get plenty from #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/birdsite" rel="tag">Birdsite.</a></span>2021-12-17T04:59:13+00:00Bob Jonkmanlnxw48a1: #Owncast is working on #ActivityPub support and some degree of interoperability with #PeerTube. I'd like to throw up experimental instances of both.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/303352
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 02-Jul-2021 22:17:15 UTC#<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/owncast" rel="tag">Owncast</a></span> is working on #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> support and some degree of interoperability with #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/peertube" rel="tag">PeerTube.</a></span><br /><br /> I'd like to throw up experimental instances of both.2021-07-02T22:17:15+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e At the time when NuFN becomes #ActivityPub capable, there will be some instance blocks instituted. I'll publish a list, but at the very least, it will include: * poa.st * anime.website * nnia.space I'll write up a list of criteria for blocking, most of which will apply to every !fnetworks instance, and a TOS/TOU document soon.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/303315
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 30-Jun-2021 01:46:28 UTC<a href="https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e" title="https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e" rel="nofollow">https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e</a> <br /><br /> At the time when NuFN becomes #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> capable, there will be some instance blocks instituted. I'll publish a list, but at the very least, it will include:<br /> * poa.st <br /> * anime.website <br /> * nnia.space <br /><br /><br /><br /> I'll write up a list of criteria for blocking, most of which will apply to every !<a href="https://nu.federati.net/group/239/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="Federati Networks (fnetworks)">fnetworks</a> instance, and a TOS/TOU document soon.2021-06-30T01:46:28+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: https://github.com/gobengo/distbin An #ActivityPub compatible #pastebin. Seems to be abandoned. I wonder how well it worked.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/302882
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 06-Jun-2021 01:08:25 UTC<a href="https://github.com/gobengo/distbin" title="https://github.com/gobengo/distbin" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://github.com/gobengo/distbin</a><br /><br /> An #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> compatible #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pastebin" rel="tag">pastebin.</a></span> Seems to be abandoned. I wonder how well it worked.2021-06-06T01:08:25+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: This instance is not yet #ActivityPub compatible, but I'm announcing in advance that we will begin blocking any instance which hosts potentially illegal material in line with https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html As far as I know, we do not have any remaining #OStatus compatible instances which allow such things, but if one shows up it will be blocked. !fnetworks
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/302857
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 04-Jun-2021 22:53:47 UTCThis instance is not yet #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> compatible, but I'm announcing in advance that we will begin blocking any instance which hosts potentially illegal material in line with <a href="https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html" title="https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html" rel="nofollow" class="attachment thumbnail">https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html</a> <br /><br /> As far as I know, we do not have any remaining #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> compatible instances which allow such things, but if one shows up it will be blocked.<br /><br /> !<a href="https://nu.federati.net/group/239/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group">fnetworks</a>2021-06-04T22:53:47+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: I’m still looking for a low priced annual payment VPS provider that has a somewhat lower risk (of closure, hardware failure, etc) than most LEB hosts, so I can launch temporary testing instances (for example, the upgrade of GS to the #ActivityPub enabled 2.0 branch, and looking at how well #Zap, #Pleroma, #Friendica instances fit into the !FNetworks roadmap). I’m also considering adding a Federati #Pump.io instance, but I need to talk with the Pump.io project about SSO options. Since they use Node.JS, I’d want it on a completely separate VPS, with some restrictions to prevent incidents. Also, if utilization is too low, that would likely close. Currently, everything is still coming out of my pocket.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/302295
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 10-May-2021 23:00:34 UTCI’m still looking for a low priced annual payment VPS provider that has a somewhat lower risk (of closure, hardware failure, etc) than most LEB hosts, so I can launch temporary testing instances (for example, the upgrade of GS to the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> enabled 2.0 branch, and looking at how well #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/zap" rel="tag">Zap</a></span>, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pleroma" rel="tag">Pleroma</a></span>, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/friendica" rel="tag">Friendica</a></span> instances fit into the !<a href="https://nu.federati.net/group/239/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="Federati Networks (fnetworks)">FNetworks</a> roadmap). <br /><br /> I’m also considering adding a Federati #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">Pump.io</a></span> instance, but I need to talk with the Pump.io project about SSO options. Since they use Node.JS, I’d want it on a completely separate VPS, with some restrictions to prevent incidents. Also, if utilization is too low, that would likely close.<br /><br /> Currently, everything is still coming out of my pocket.2021-05-10T23:00:34+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: @musicman My understanding is that some came to the #ActivityPub side of the #Fediverse, but most went to #Gab, #Minds, and similarly #corpocentric platforms.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/300219
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 29-Jan-2021 20:43:41 UTC@<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/12" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Douglas A. Whitfield">musicman</a> My understanding is that some came to the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> side of the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span>, but most went to #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/gab" rel="tag">Gab</a></span>, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/minds" rel="tag">Minds</a></span>, and similarly #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/corpocentric" rel="tag">corpocentric</a></span> platforms.2021-01-29T20:43:41+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: "The post"{https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936} seemed to be a lot of fear-mongering, even more than the article itself. (1) #Twitter has millions of users. There is no #ActivityPub nor #OStatus implementation in which an instance hosted on a $5/mo #DigitalOcean / #Linode / #Vultr #VPS could handle the volume of a seamless connection with #Twitter. If they adopted AP OStatus, #Diaspora, or any other current open federation protocol, instances that didn't use firewall blocking would topple once the two userbases had sufficient interconnections (within a few hours or a few days after they started federating). (2) Twitter's business model is to push ads disguised as tweets. If their users could escape those and still interact with all the same contacts, they would. I'm certain that Twitter's management know this. They also turn all links into tracking links, and sell access to media (images, video, audio) uploads of important news events to news organizations. (3) Most Fediverse instances are financed out of the admin's pocket. Some have financial contributors, but nothing like Twitter's revenue. As the largest and best-financed instance, they would immediately have to start implementing modifications to make AP or other existing federation protocols useful to them, and those modifications would (as Mastodon's currently do) become unofficially mandatory in order to be compatible. (4) This isn't the first time that Twitter has considered federation, though this may be the first time they openly discussed it. Back when Identica was still a happening place (during Twitter's fail-whale days), Twitter considered federating. They didn't do it then, and I honestly do not believe they will do it now. (5) I'd say that Twitter's #BlueSky initiative is more meant to try to get bidirectional connections across #Facebook's moat and wall than it is to surround Twitter with a cloud of #Fediverse instances.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/299866
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 16-Jan-2021 18:28:49 UTC"The post"{<a href="https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936" title="https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936</a>} seemed to be a lot of fear-mongering, even more than the article itself.<br /><br /> (1) #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twitter" rel="tag">Twitter</a></span> has millions of users. There is no #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> nor #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> implementation in which an instance hosted on a $5/mo #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/digitalocean" rel="tag">DigitalOcean</a></span> / #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/linode" rel="tag">Linode</a></span> / #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/vultr" rel="tag">Vultr</a></span> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/vps" rel="tag">VPS</a></span> could handle the volume of a seamless connection with #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/twitter" rel="tag">Twitter.</a></span> If they adopted AP OStatus, #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/diaspora" rel="tag">Diaspora</a></span>, or any other current open federation protocol, instances that didn't use firewall blocking would topple once the two userbases had sufficient interconnections (within a few hours or a few days after they started federating).<br /><br /> (2) Twitter's business model is to push ads disguised as tweets. If their users could escape those and still interact with all the same contacts, they would. I'm certain that Twitter's management know this. They also turn all links into tracking links, and sell access to media (images, video, audio) uploads of important news events to news organizations.<br /><br /> (3) Most Fediverse instances are financed out of the admin's pocket. Some have financial contributors, but nothing like Twitter's revenue. As the largest and best-financed instance, they would immediately have to start implementing modifications to make AP or other existing federation protocols useful to them, and those modifications would (as Mastodon's currently do) become unofficially mandatory in order to be compatible.<br /><br /> (4) This isn't the first time that Twitter has considered federation, though this may be the first time they openly discussed it. Back when Identica was still a happening place (during Twitter's fail-whale days), Twitter considered federating. They didn't do it then, and I honestly do not believe they will do it now.<br /><br /> (5) I'd say that Twitter's #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/bluesky" rel="tag">BlueSky</a></span> initiative is more meant to try to get bidirectional connections across #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/facebook" rel="tag">Facebook</a></span>'s moat and wall than it is to surround Twitter with a cloud of #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> instances.2021-01-16T18:28:49+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: Now discussing changes needed to switch to #ActivityPub instead of their #Pump.io protocol (an ancestor of AP).
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/299245
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 18-Dec-2020 21:20:44 UTCNow discussing changes needed to switch to #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> instead of their #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">Pump.io</a></span> protocol (an ancestor of AP).2020-12-18T21:20:44+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742 It looks like #ActivityPub support is getting closer.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/294799
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2020 21:11:03 UTC<a href="https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742" title="https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742</a> <br /><br /> It looks like #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> support is getting closer.2020-07-22T21:11:03+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}lnxw48a1: @simsa03 Yes. They are working on finishing #ActivityPub support for the 2.0 release. Then comes some serious re-architecting for the 3.0 release. Along the way, at least one new theme should be released.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/294645
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 17-Jul-2020 23:04:26 UTC@<a href="https://pleroma.site/users/simsa03" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">simsa03</a> Yes. They are working on finishing #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> support for the 2.0 release. Then comes some serious re-architecting for the 3.0 release. Along the way, at least one new theme should be released.2020-07-17T23:04:26+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}andstatus: #AndStatus v.56.09 (326) released. "Show numbers of likes, replies and reblogs for a Note 1. Show numbers of likes, replies and reblogs for Mastodon; likes and retweets for Twitter. Added similar to #ActivityPub #C2S, hope the same counters will be supported there also. 2. Added Actors's name ("Real name") as a separate field to Actor's profile. Created landscape layout for Actor's profile. https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5933715
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/292645
andstatus's status on Saturday, 23-May-2020 15:17:50 UTC#<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/andstatus" rel="tag">AndStatus</a></span> v.56.09 (326) released. "Show numbers of likes, replies and reblogs for a Note<br /> 1. Show numbers of likes, replies and reblogs for Mastodon; likes and retweets for Twitter. Added similar to #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/c2s" rel="tag">C2S</a></span>, hope the same counters will be supported there also.<br /> 2. Added Actors's name ("Real name") as a separate field to Actor's profile. Created landscape layout for Actor's profile. <a href="https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5933715" title="https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5933715" rel="nofollow" class="attachment thumbnail">https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5933715</a>2020-05-23T15:17:50+00:00AndStatuslnxw48a1: https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642 #Friendica Someone that is familiar with #Diaspora is writing a new socnet based on #ActivityPub, wishes to change other #Fediverse software to follow Diaspora's model (viewer's server hijacks hashtags so the #hashtag search points to the viewer's home server, not the original poster's home server). The model that has been followed by almost all federated socnets for over a decade is that hashtag search links are inserted by the poster's server and point back there. IMO, a remote server changing the links is sketchy as heck*, but if they added local hashtag links in a separate area outside the post itself, that's acceptable. Or if they followed the #Pump.io idea of keeping hashtags completely separate from the basic server, then an external server (e.g. ragtag\.io) would be called to index and link the tag during the posting process, and searches would be performed based on results from the tag server. Anyway, I can't be bothered logging into Github to comment, but maybe @heluecht and other Friendica devs will see this and take this into consideration. * Remote servers editing the contents of one's posts is about as sketchy as it gets. There are rare occasions where that may be acceptable (i.e., to insert NSFW tags / image hiding on posts from instances where untagged NSFW content originates), but editing content to hijack hashtag search is about as questionable as one could get.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/292504
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 19-May-2020 01:41:39 UTC<a href="https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642" title="https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://github.com/friendica/friendica/issues/8642</a> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/friendica" rel="tag">Friendica</a></span> Someone that is familiar with #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/diaspora" rel="tag">Diaspora</a></span> is writing a new socnet based on #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span>, wishes to change other #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/fediverse" rel="tag">Fediverse</a></span> software to follow Diaspora's model (viewer's server hijacks hashtags so the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/hashtag" rel="tag">hashtag</a></span> search points to the viewer's home server, not the original poster's home server). The model that has been followed by almost all federated socnets for over a decade is that hashtag search links are inserted by the poster's server and point back there.<br /><br /> IMO, a remote server changing the links is sketchy as heck*, but if they added local hashtag links in a separate area outside the post itself, that's acceptable. Or if they followed the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">Pump.io</a></span> idea of keeping hashtags completely separate from the basic server, then an external server (e.g. ragtag\.io) would be called to index and link the tag during the posting process, and searches would be performed based on results from the tag server.<br /><br /> Anyway, I can't be bothered logging into Github to comment, but maybe @<a href="https://pirati.ca/profile/heluecht" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">heluecht</a> and other Friendica devs will see this and take this into consideration.<br /><br /> * Remote servers editing the contents of one's posts is about as sketchy as it gets. There are rare occasions where that may be acceptable (i.e., to insert NSFW tags / image hiding on posts from instances where untagged NSFW content originates), but editing content to hijack hashtag search is about as questionable as one could get.2020-05-19T01:41:39+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}andstatus: AndStatus v.55.01 Beta with "ActivityPub Client to Server improvements". Download from: https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/456 1. This release was focused on supporting new and improved #ActivityPub features that appeared both in #Pleroma and, surprisingly, in #Mastodon also. You can really start experimenting with ActivityPub social network type if you have an account at Pleroma site with latest v.2.x Pleroma builds... Posting with image attachments works. 2. Mastodon (not AndStatus!) doesn't give you enough features to switch client connection to ActivityPub simply because Home timeline and posting via ActivityPub connection is not supported yet (corresponding pages give 404 Not found error). But you can see our own posts on Mastodon servers and navigate to other Actors and their post via them (you can see profiles of other Actors and see their posts...). You can even play with Mastodon as an "ActivityPub" type Social network in AndStatus today! But prepare to see empty Home timeline and to be read-only there for now. Switch to "Sent" timeline and see your Actor's posts, see other actors and their posts similarly... These new Mastodon improvements make me very optimistic about the future of ActivityPub in client apps across all server platforms. 3. Some important fixes, including more Avatars and Images will be shown. 4. More convenience for developers. Logging of network level messages (including response headers) improved. Even file names with responses are much clearer now, e.g. 2020-04-25-03-34-51-663_social.tulsa.ok.us-oauth_register_client_response.json or 2020-04-25-03-35-02-235_mastodon.technology-get_actor_response.json (real names from my log). Remember that logs are stored for 10 days and can be optionally included in a Backup! Server developers, please use AndStatus as your testing client! https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5911794
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/291631
andstatus's status on Sunday, 26-Apr-2020 10:18:21 UTCAndStatus v.55.01 Beta with "ActivityPub Client to Server improvements".<br /> Download from: <a href="https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/456" title="https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/456" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/456</a><br /><br /> 1. This release was focused on supporting new and improved #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> features that appeared both in #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/pleroma" rel="tag">Pleroma</a></span> and, surprisingly, in #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/mastodon" rel="tag">Mastodon</a></span> also. You can really start experimenting with ActivityPub social network type if you have an account at Pleroma site with latest v.2.x Pleroma builds... Posting with image attachments works.<br /><br /> 2. Mastodon (not AndStatus!) doesn't give you enough features to switch client connection to ActivityPub simply because Home timeline and posting via ActivityPub connection is not supported yet (corresponding pages give 404 Not found error).<br /> But you can see our own posts on Mastodon servers and navigate to other Actors and their post via them (you can see profiles of other Actors and see their posts...). You can even play with Mastodon as an "ActivityPub" type Social network in AndStatus today! But prepare to see empty Home timeline and to be read-only there for now. Switch to "Sent" timeline and see your Actor's posts, see other actors and their posts similarly...<br /> These new Mastodon improvements make me very optimistic about the future of ActivityPub in client apps across all server platforms.<br /><br /> 3. Some important fixes, including more Avatars and Images will be shown.<br /><br /> 4. More convenience for developers. Logging of network level messages (including response headers) improved. Even file names with responses are much clearer now, e.g. 2020-04-25-03-34-51-663_social.tulsa.ok.us-oauth_register_client_response.json or 2020-04-25-03-35-02-235_mastodon.technology-get_actor_response.json (real names from my log). Remember that logs are stored for 10 days and can be optionally included in a Backup!<br /><br /> Server developers, please use AndStatus as your testing client! <a href="https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5911794" title="https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5911794" rel="nofollow" class="attachment thumbnail">https://loadaverage.org/attachment/5911794</a>2020-04-26T10:18:21+00:00AndStatuslnxw48a1: @licho #Mastodon 3.x and #Pleroma 2x no longer speak the #OStatus federation protocol. !GNUsocial 2.0 will add the #ActivityPub federation protocol, so ask your admin to be ready to upgrade soon.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/291099
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 10-Apr-2020 16:17:51 UTC@<a href="https://gnusocial.no/user/53074" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">licho</a> #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/mastodon" rel="tag">Mastodon</a></span> 3.x and #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pleroma" rel="tag">Pleroma</a></span> 2x no longer speak the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> federation protocol. !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> 2.0 will add the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> federation protocol, so ask your admin to be ready to upgrade soon.2020-04-10T16:17:51+00:00LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}andstatus: @diogo Thank you for your explanation. Now I really see a page on the loadaverage site that tells its server version. And #AndStatus still successfully connects to the server (I'm writing to you using it). This means that the authentication problem that I reported is caused by a configuration of a concrete server, and not by the latest version of #GnuSocial :-) Using a chance to talk with you, I hope that you will find time for Client-to-Server #ActivityPub API also. I'm extending support of that API in AndStatus, and already see that not only #Pleroma, but even some #Mastodon sites begin to implement some parts of the API, allowing a Client app to request information directly from its sources, without a need to duplicate it. E.g. Notes by an Actor may be requested from the Actor's profile (from the Actor's outbox) at his site, and not from the server, at which the User of the Client app has an account... @colegota @xrevan86
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/290947
andstatus's status on Monday, 06-Apr-2020 16:24:35 UTC@<a href="https://loadaverage.org/user/386167" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">diogo</a> Thank you for your explanation. Now I really see a page on the loadaverage site that tells its server version. And #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/andstatus" rel="tag">AndStatus</a></span> still successfully connects to the server (I'm writing to you using it).<br /> This means that the authentication problem that I reported is caused by a configuration of a concrete server, and not by the latest version of #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GnuSocial</a></span> :-)<br /><br /> Using a chance to talk with you, I hope that you will find time for Client-to-Server #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> API also. I'm extending support of that API in AndStatus, and already see that not only #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/pleroma" rel="tag">Pleroma</a></span>, but even some #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/mastodon" rel="tag">Mastodon</a></span> sites begin to implement some parts of the API, allowing a Client app to request information directly from its sources, without a need to duplicate it. E.g. Notes by an Actor may be requested from the Actor's profile (from the Actor's outbox) at his site, and not from the server, at which the User of the Client app has an account...<br /><br /> @<a href="https://gnusocial.villanos.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">colegota</a> @<a href="https://loadaverage.org/user/124" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">xrevan86</a>2020-04-06T16:24:35+00:00AndStatusandstatus: @roka It works! Thank you for noticing #ActivityPub support.
https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/notice/290554
andstatus's status on Thursday, 26-Mar-2020 18:00:00 UTC@<a href="https://pl.smuglo.li/users/roka" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">roka</a> It works!<br /> Thank you for noticing #<span class="tag"><a href="https://loadaverage.org/tag/activitypub" rel="tag">ActivityPub</a></span> support.2020-03-26T18:00:00+00:00AndStatusandstatusAndStatus