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Tobias Denkinger (denki@mastodontech.de)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 16:42:37 UTC Tobias Denkinger
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I believe most people would consider sexual interest with 12-year olds as pedophilia. Typically, a 12-year old girl of that time would be pre-puberty and therefore be considered a child. (A 14-year may be post-puberty and that infatuation would technically not be considered pedophilia, but still objectionable even by the standards of the time.)

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- Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Aug-2023 21:29:25 UTC Robert McNees
  
  For all his scientific accomplishments, Erwin Schrödinger was a sexual predator who wrote in his journal about infatuations with girls as young as 12. He groomed a 14 year old; when she was 17 he got her pregnant then abandoned her.
  He argued that his genius gave him the right to pursue young girls.
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  1. Part of a tweet from the account “Physics in History.” It reads: Happy 136th Birthday to Erwin Schrödinger (b. 1887 - d. 1961), one of the pioneers and titans of Quantum mechanics, and a prolific writer on physics and philosophy. Schrödinger was a brilliant physicist who made significant contributions to the development of quantum mechanics. He is best known for his Schrödinger equation, which is a mathematical formula that relates the wave function of a system to its energy and potential. The wave function is a complex function that describes the probability of finding a particle in a given state or location.
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  2. Part of a tweet from the account “Physics in History.” It reads: Schrödinger was a remarkable scientist who advanced our understanding of the physical world and inspired many other researchers and thinkers. He was also a complex and controversial person who had unconventional views on politics, morality, and spirituality. He died in 1961 in Vienna, his birthplace.
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- Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Aug-2023 21:32:51 UTC Robert McNees
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  Saying "He was also a complex and controversial person who had unconventional views" is a weak cop out.
  When he was 53 he set his sights on a *12 year old*. The girl's family had to have a priest intervene.
  He tutored a girl named Ithi Junger. It's not clear when their sexual relationship began. It may have been when she was as young as 14. By his own admission he impregnated her when she was 17. He lost interest after that, and terminating the pregnancy left her sterile.
  
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- Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Aug-2023 21:34:21 UTC Robert McNees
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  There's nothing wrong with having an interest in his scientific accomplishments; they're foundational. But don't valorize the guy and then sweep the dark stuff under the rug. Erwin Schrödinger was a great physicist, and an absolute monster.
  
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- Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 01:07:09 UTC Robert McNees
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  @richlv @weyoun6 He went after 12 and 14 year old girls, and wrote about how his genius entitled him to pursue young girls, as I understand it.
  
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- Rihards Olups (richlv@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 01:07:13 UTC Rihards Olups
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  @weyoun6 @mcnees He seems to be quite an ass, but not a pedophile, right?
  
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- Weyoun 6 (weyoun6@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 01:07:14 UTC Weyoun 6
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  @mcnees I've been pushing back on this for some time. People are unaware and dismissive of the history.
  https://futurism.com/schrodinger-pedophile
  
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- SatchofBridgend (satchofbridgend@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 02:00:30 UTC SatchofBridgend
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  @mcnees Not to mention what he did to his cat!
  
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- Rini (khetienn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 02:19:59 UTC Rini
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  @mcnees oh shit, I didn't know this. Thank you.
  
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- Weyoun 6 (weyoun6@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 16:42:34 UTC Weyoun 6
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  @richlv @denki @mcnees pro-tip: defending pedophiles will make everyone suspect you are a pedophile.
  
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- Robert McNees (mcnees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 16:42:34 UTC Robert McNees
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  @weyoun6 @richlv @denki I don’t think they are defending anything, just trying to understand what language they should use for his behavior. Imo there aren’t any hairs to be split here, but it seems they are being clear that his behavior was wrong.
  
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- Rihards Olups (richlv@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 16:42:35 UTC Rihards Olups
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  Oh, he seems to have been quite an ass for sure. But based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty (not hunting down more refs :) ), "On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11".
  I fully support highlighting bad people and bad behaviour, but then it is even more important to be precise in criticism so that we don't dilute words or make criticism look weak.
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  1. Puberty
    
    Puberty is the process of physical changes through which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction. It is initiated by hormonal signals from the brain to the gonads: the ovaries in a girl, the testes in a boy. In response to the signals, the gonads produce hormones that stimulate libido and the growth, function, and transformation of the brain, bones, muscle, blood, skin, hair, breasts, and sex organs. Physical growth—height and weight—accelerates in the first half of puberty and is completed when an adult body has been developed. Before puberty, the external sex organs, known as primary sexual characteristics, are sex characteristics that distinguish boys and girls. Puberty leads to sexual dimorphism through the development of the secondary sex characteristics, which further distinguish the sexes. On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11 and complete puberty at ages 15–17; boys generally begin puberty at ages 11–12 and complete puberty at ages 16–17. The major landmark of puberty for females is menarche, the onset of...
- Rihards Olups (richlv@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2023 19:22:13 UTC Rihards Olups
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  Absolutely. He seems to have been quite a cunt even by the European standards back then, and much more so today.
  But labelling everybody with some word makes that word so dilluted that next time somebody hears such an accusation, they might go "uh, need to check detail as people have been misusing this word way too much".
  Let's not be those "this is wrong, but it helps me make my point, so I don't care what's correct".
  
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